<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">SignWriting List<div>April 19, 2008</div><div><br></div><div>Hello Stefan, Ingvild and Adam!</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks for the question, Stefan. And thanks for the answers, Ingvild and Adam... All your messages are below...I could not find your new attached file, Ingvild...but it sounded right!</div><div><br></div><div>Adam explained it so perfectly that there is nothing more for me to say!</div><div><br></div><div>The hands start the circle where the arrows are placed. The dark side of the circle is closer to the chest. So if the arrows are placed on the dark side of the circle, then the hands start the circle closer to the chest.</div><div><br></div><div>We write "relating to the center of the body"... or "relating to the center of the sign"... and Adam is correct that placing the darker side of the circles on the outside, gives the "feeling" of focusing on the "center of the sign"...</div><div><br></div><div>So the bottom row of your symbols (number 4 and 8 in the attached), Stefan, fits best with the rules that "each sign has a center"...Val ;-)</div><div><br></div><div><div><img height="300" width="304" apple-width="yes" apple-height="yes" src="cid:3E22AF0D-531C-46FF-A0E0-2E2EC812566E"></div></div><div><br><div><html>------------</html><html><br></html><html>On Apr 19, 2008, at 2:33 AM, Adam Frost wrote:<blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); ">First things first. As I understand it, the arrowhead shows where the hands start and end, so there is a slight distinction there between how some of your arrows are set up. Also, each sign has a center. By having the darker or thicker part of the arrow on the outside and the lighter or thinner part inside creates that center. So of the combinations, the last row seems to be the only configuration that works. I might be wrong, but that's how I see it as of right now. <br>Adam</span></blockquote><div><br></div></html><html>-----------</html><html><br></html><html>On Apr 19, 2008, at 5:04 AM, Ingvild Roald wrote:<blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); "><div class="hmmessage" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; ">I would prefer the one at the lower left. (I have added this as a separate file.)The right hand is 'taking the lead', and the two circles makes kind of a depth perspective - but as you say, it is a matter of feling. <br>Ingvild </div></span></blockquote></html><html><br></html><html>-----------</html><html><br></html><html><br></html><html>On Apr 19, 2008, at 2:20 AM, Stefan Wöhrmann wrote:</html><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Arial; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><div lang="DE" link="blue" vlink="purple"><o:smarttagtype namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="country-region"><o:smarttagtype namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="place"><div class="Section1"><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 14pt; font-family: Arial; "><font size="2" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 10pt; ">Hi Valerie and sw-list,<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 14pt; font-family: Arial; "><font size="2" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 10pt; "><o:p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(20, 79, 174); font-size: 14px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: -1; ">preparing some new worksheets for my students I happened to realize that there are many different options to write the movement we need in <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Germany</st1:place></st1:country-region> for the signs of sign or bike ...</span></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 14pt; font-family: Arial; "><font size="2" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 10pt; "><o:p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(20, 79, 174); font-size: 14px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: -1; ">Do you prefer any of these as kind of “best Gestalt”? </span></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 14pt; font-family: Arial; "><font size="2" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 10pt; "><o:p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(20, 79, 174); font-size: 14px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: -1; ">I know it is a matter of feeling – but perhaps of experience as well ... just curious ...</span></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 14pt; font-family: Arial; "><font size="2" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 10pt; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 14pt; font-family: Arial; "><font class="Apple-style-span" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px;"><img height="180" width="133" apple-width="yes" apple-height="yes" src="cid:4A6402CA-2360-4691-9961-9701267BB427"></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 14pt; font-family: Arial; "><font size="2" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 10pt; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 14pt; font-family: Arial; "><font size="2" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 10pt; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 14pt; font-family: Arial; "><font size="2" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 10pt; ">All the best Stefan ;-)</span></font></div></div></o:smarttagtype></o:smarttagtype></div></span></blockquote></div></div></body></html>