<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">SignWriting List<div>April 20, 2008</div><div><br><div><html>Stefan Wöhrmann wrote:</html><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Arial; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy; ">thanks for your comments. Well I can understand this idea about a “center of a sign” . If there are no arrows involved – just the pure circles with the thin and thick part I have no problem to see them arranged in a symmetric way with the tick part outside. In combination with the arrows it “feels” sometimes as if I focus more on these ..(like spelling A) . but following your rule as if looking into a room in front of me it makes sense to write it as in spelling B though both arrows on the right side seem to push the hands visually to the right side...<span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(20, 79, 174); font-size: 14px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: -1; ">Anyway it has been helpfull to think about it --- L.I.F.E, Thanks again, Stefan ;-)</span></span></font></div></span></blockquote><br></div><div><br></div><div>Hello Stefan, Ingvild, Adam and everyone -</div><div><br></div><div>Of course I can see your point, Stefan, and I bet most people would be able to read the sign correctly either way, however, following the "Center of the Sign" series of rules, I would choose your example B in the attached...</div><div><br></div><div>Each sign has a center, and the body has a center too. The symbols relate to the center of the sign, and also to the center of the body. </div><div><br></div><div>This has been helpful in standardizing the writing of signs.</div><div><br></div><div>Of course, there are many signs in the SignPuddles that need to be changed, to follow these rules...smile...and when the ISWA 2008 is installed into the new SignPuddle 2.0 (in a couple of months), we hope to go back to look at all the signs in the ASL SignPuddles, and with the help of ASL signers, re-edit some of them, so the rules are standardized...</div><div><br></div><div>So we are making slow and steady progress...</div><div><br></div><div>Thank you for your kind attention to so many important details...</div><div><br></div><div>Val ;-)</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div><img height="98" width="209" apple-width="yes" apple-height="yes" src="cid:F72F0A96-9B0F-43CE-ADBF-78C53BF5FF1E"></div></div></div></body></html>