There is also an excellent SW article on Facial Expressions and Topical Markers.<br><br>http://www.signwriting.org/lessons/grammar/gram001.html<br><br><br><b><i>Charles Butler <chazzer3332000@yahoo.com></i></b> wrote:<blockquote class="replbq" style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> The video that I am transcribing is NOT in the Sign Puddle or Sign Literature yet. There is no publication called "Living ASL". I was using this is an example of a living language. Valerie has not yet loaded Lucinda's videotape on L'Epee.<br><br>Signing Naturally covers expression and head nod markers in several chapters. We spent at least three classes on those markers in my ASL III class.<br><br>Charles<br><br><br><b><i>MARIA AZZOPARDI <maria.azzopardi@um.edu.mt></i></b> wrote:<blockquote class="replbq" style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> So would the head
up/down at the beginning and end of a fingerspelt word<br>also be considered a 'topical marker'?<br><br>Do you know of any recent literature about facial expressions, or even a<br>grammar book of ASL that would include facial expressions/head movements.<br><br>So is 'Living ASL' in the USA Puddle?<br><br>Many thanks once again<br>Maria<br><br>> Ah, "Living ASL" was my shorthand for working directly with Lucinda's<br>> tape. I'd love to go to some of the Deaf video blogging sites and simply<br>> grab one at random and write them.<br>><br>> The grammar marker at the end of Versailles France would be a "topical<br>> marker". The whole phrase is one noun, not just Versailles. She's really<br>> talented and very consistent.<br>><br>> In the original video tape she did tend to mouth words so I had to be<br>> careful just to pick up the grammatical markers, not the English.<br>><br>> Charles<br>><br>><br>> MARIA AZZOPARDI
<maria.azzopardi@um.edu.mt> wrote: Thank you Charles for<br>> your feedback. Yes, I've noticed the classifiers and<br>> will be analysing them a little more in detail soon.<br>><br>> Your transcriptions of DeafHistory contain a lot of phonetic detail, well<br>> done - even someone like myself who knows no ASL can almost see the Deaf<br>> signer sign while reading them.<br>><br>> Where can I find "living ASL" please?<br>><br>> Maria<br>><br>>> The DeafHistory 1-4 are from a transcription of an actual video which<br>>> will<br>>> be posted later, so as a "standard" text it, I think, is a good example<br>>> of<br>>> "living ASL". I'm trying to include the head-nods where they appear,<br>>> as,<br>>> for the most part, they appear as markers on fingerspelled words and on<br>>> time phrases.<br>>><br>>> I'm also including, if you may have noticed, classifiers when they are<br>>>
carried down between signs. Note "teaching Deaf children" in<br>>> DeafHistory4, the left hand from TEACH is carried down into Deaf &<br>>> children as a topical marker while the primary hand moves.<br>>><br>>> Charles<br>>><br>>> MARIA AZZOPARDI wrote: Thanks.<br>>> Yes, this is helpful. It's a starting point to start analyzing and<br>>> thinking.<br>>><br>>> It's interesting to see how the head-up and then head-down marks the<br>>> beginning an end of a fingerspelt word, this happens in LSM too. It's<br>>> even<br>>> more interesting to note that it doesn't actually mark the beginning and<br>>> end of a fingerspelt word, because in 'Versailles France', the head<br>>> comes<br>>> down on the sign France rather than on the last 's' of Versailes.<br>>><br>>> What exactly would you call this grammatical feature?<br>>><br>>> Additionally, you
mentioned this is a first draft. For writing standard<br>>> ASL, would you include the head-up and then head-down at the beginning<br>>> and<br>>> end of fingerspelt words, or would the head-up and down be considered<br>>> redundant information, and thus unneccessary for a written text.<br>>><br>>> thanks,<br>>> Maria<br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>>> Simply as an example, go to the ASL Encyclopedia and see the beginnings<br>>>> of<br>>>> the article I have loaded on Deaf History, DeafHistory1, DeafHistory2,<br>>>> DeafHistory3, DeafHistory4. I transcribed this from a videotape and it<br>>>> is<br>>>> filled with grammatical eye gazes, eyebrows, and head nods. It's a<br>>>> first<br>>>> draft, but it may help you in how I manage with it.<br>>>><br>>>> Charles Butler<br>>>><br>>>><br>>>> MARIA AZZOPARDI
wrote: Hello list,<br>>>><br>>>> I have a 'big' question about the function of facial expressions<br>>>> (mainly<br>>>> eye-brow and head up/down expressions) in sign languages.<br>>>><br>>>> The linguistics of LSM (Maltese sign language) has still not been<br>>>> researched thoroughly. There are of course rules in LSM governing<br>>>> facial<br>>>> expressions, however since this has not been studied yet, I find myself<br>>>> trying to do two things at the same time: translate to signwritten LSM,<br>>>> and at the same time think about what rules may be governing these<br>>>> facial<br>>>> expressions. I find myself using different eye-brow expressions for<br>>>> different questions, at the introduction of new topics, during<br>>>> role-play<br>>>> in signing, at certain clauses etc.<br>>>><br>>>> Could someone
lead me to some more information about the grammatical<br>>>> aspect of facial expressions, preferably with signwritten examples. Or<br>>>> perhaps illustrate a few examples of how and when facial expressions<br>>>> are<br>>>> used in your sign languages. LSM is different to ASL and other sign<br>>>> languages, although it seems to be a little related to BSL. Besides<br>>>> there<br>>>> are certain sign language universals, so any information would be much<br>>>> appreciated.<br>>>><br>>>> Maria<br>>>><br>>>><br>>>><br>>>><br>>>><br>>>><br>>>><br>>>><br>>>> ____________________________________________<br>>>><br>>>> SW-L SignWriting List<br>>>><br>>>> Post Message<br>>>> SW-L@majordomo.valenciacc.edu<br>>>><br>>>> List Archives and
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