<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">SignWriting List<div>August 3, 2008</div><div><br></div><div>Hello Honza and everyone on the SW List:</div><div><br></div><div>Honza and I have been discussing how to write "compound signs" using SignPuddle software, and I wanted to share with you all how I personally write a compound sign...</div><div><br></div><div>1. I find one of the signs already written in SignPuddle.</div><div>2. I copy that one sign, which brings it into SignMaker.</div><div>3. Then I write the other signs that are involved in the compound, directly in SignMaker, and I put the two signs together into one sign.</div><div>4. Then I save it to SignPuddle as a new sign.</div><div><br></div><div>If it is necessary for me to look at one of the other signs, while I am re-writing it in SignPuddle, I open a second web browser, and view the second sign in SignPuddle, while I am creating the compound in SignMaker using Firefox.</div><div><br></div><div>For me, when I write compounds, they usually become more than "two signs"...they are oftentimes blended into one sign, like the sign for "DAUGHTER" in ASL, which is really a compound sign that includes the signs for GIRL and BABY...so I would prefer to write the compounds manually and adjust them, before saving them as a new sign in SignPuddle...</div><div><br></div><div>Please see attached diagram...</div><div><br></div><div><img height="212" width="295" apple-width="yes" apple-height="yes" src="cid:DC26B032-29DF-4C8A-861F-9C90217E73F9"></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Does this help at all, Honza? Or are there other issues I have not understood in your question?</div><div><br></div><div>Val ;-)</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On Aug 3, 2008, at 2:58 AM, Honza wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr">Hi Val again,<br><br>yeah, you are right.<br>There are more sings, that are combinations of two or more sings and nowadays in SignMaker it is not possible to create signs combining previously written signs.<br> <br>thanks, <br>Honza<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 8:15 PM, Valerie Sutton <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sutton@signwriting.org">sutton@signwriting.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> Hello Honza -<br> Thanks for this message. I hope in the future you can post these kinds of questions to the SignWriting List. That helps me because we all learn together that way...<br> <br> I am not sure I understand you...<br> <br> Here is what I think you are asking...<br> <br> Some signs are "combinations" of two signs...<br> <br> for example "sister-in-law" is the combination of the individual signs for "LAW" and "SISTER"...<br> <br> right now, we can only copy one sign at a time in SignMaker in SignPuddle...but you are hoping that we could copy LAW and then SISTER and place them BOTH into SignMaker so that he could then combine them into ONE sign and save them in SignPuddle as a "compound sign" that is one sign with two signs inside it...<br> <br> Is that what you are asking for? The ability to copy more than one sign into SignMaker to combine signs into compound signs?<br> <br> I realized that feature would be useful before, but instead I copy one sign into SignMaker and then write the second one from scratch...which by the way is just as well because sometimes the two signs blend together anyway...and then I save the combination into SignPuddle...<br> <br> At least I guessed that is what you mean...if I am wrong please explain, and please be sure to send your answer to both Steve and me...<br> <br> And feel free to post on the SignWriting List...that is best for us...<br> <br> Val ;-)<br> <br> --------<div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c"><br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> On Aug 2, 2008, at 3:33 AM, Honza wrote:<br> <br> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> Hi Val,<br> <br> recently we came across difficulties writing down terms (signs) containing more than one signs.<br> I mean signs which are compounded from other signs.<br> <br> For example if you have "brother in law", that is signed SISTER+MY+HUSBAND+HER, it is necessary to write down all separate signs in one field.<br> It would be more useful to have possibility to use previously written down signs and compound term (sing) Brother-in-law from that signs like in SignText.<br> And it would be better from the linguistic point of view as well (this is used in spoken language dictionaries as well)<br> <br> thanks<br> Honza<br> </blockquote> <br> </div></div></blockquote></div><br></div> <br><br><br>____________________________________________<br><br>SW-L SignWriting List<br><br>Post Message<br><a href="mailto:SW-L@majordomo.valenciacc.edu">SW-L@majordomo.valenciacc.edu</a><br><br>List Archives and Help<br>http://www.signwriting.org/forums/swlist/<br><br>Change Email Settings<br>http://majordomo.valenciacc.edu/mailman/listinfo/sw-l</blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>