<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">SignWriting List<div>September 7, 2008</div><div><br></div><div>Hello Adam and Stefan!</div><div>Thank you for this great feedback...I really appreciate it!</div><div><br></div><div>And I will be happy to include BOTH then, into the ISWA. It is actually quite easy to do that. I will not be adding any new BaseSymbols to the ISWA, but under that symbol, will be different alternatives...different ways to write alternating blinking or single blinking...so you will have all the choices you need...</div><div><br></div><div>And Steve just wrote to tell me that I can go ahead and fix that section up - isn't that great? I feel so blessed to be working with such a wonderful team of people -</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks once again -</div><div><br></div><div>Val ;-)</div><div><br></div><div>------------</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On Sep 7, 2008, at 12:15 PM, Adam Frost wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Stefan,<div><br></div><div>I have to admit that it would seem weird to have alternating blinking eyes, but I have to admit that I used to do that all the time when I was a kid. I can still do it, and somewhat fast too. ;-) So although it may not have been intended, I still think it would be good to have as well. True, it may not be used THAT much, but it could be said for several other symbols. I do know that it will get used. ;-)</div><div><br></div><div>Adam</div><div><br><div><div>On Sep 7, 2008, at 11:55 AM, Valerie Sutton wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">SignWriting List<div>September 7, 2008</div><div><br></div><div>Hello Stefan and everyone -</div><div>Thank you for your kind words below...Yes...I have been working on the ISWA for years now, and although we all know it will never be "prefect", it is certainly a better symbolset than the IMWA...the symbol you ask your question about below didn't even exist in the IMWA...</div><div><br></div><div>And yes you are right, we are planning all kinds of documentation and teaching methods to teach the symbols, including animated GIFs of each symbol, and as you say, photos and descriptions...maybe you and others would enjoy helping me with some of those? We can talk about that later...one step at a time...;-))</div><div><br></div><div>Meanwhile, to answer your question below...That symbol is an "Eye-Blink". It is one of several ways to write the eyelid...but I can see you found a tiny error on my part...the little arrows that represent the opening and closing should be read from the center-out, and so the arrows should be flopped for one of the eyes! Great to get your discerning feedback, Stefan...you have such a good eye (smile) for details - I am not sure if that can be fixed now, because it is overwhelming work for Steve to have to re-load the symbols...but I am glad you told me and I will put that on a little list of "things to fix someday" ;-))</div><div><br></div><div>At least you know what is meant here:</div><div><br></div><div>Here are the Eye-Blink symbols:</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><span><Eyeblinks.png></span></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On Sep 7, 2008, at 11:20 AM, Stefan Wöhrmann wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Arial; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; "><font size="2" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size: 10pt; ">Hello Valerie, and sw-listers<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; "><font size="2" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size: 10pt; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; "><font size="2" face="Courier New"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 10pt; ">wow what an excellent achievement. You must be so proud of your "baby" - smile - I bet that not too many people can estimate how much of your time, energy, creativity, knowledge and discipline has been necessary to accomplish this vision.<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; "><font size="2" face="Courier New"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 10pt; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; "><font size="2" face="Courier New"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 10pt; ">The good point is that know all over the world people can refer to symbols in order to describe any given SL performance.<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; "><font size="2" face="Courier New"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 10pt; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; "><font size="2" face="Courier New"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 10pt; ">What will be helpfull in the long run is a 1 to 1 graphic - foto or description to symbol. I felt so excited and I looked at all the pages and symbols in the document you shared for download.<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; "><font size="2" face="Courier New"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 10pt; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; "><font size="2" face="Courier New"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 10pt; ">Just allow one funny comment - can you perform this eye-movement opening and closing alternating ? – smile -</span></font></div></span></blockquote><br><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Arial; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; "><font size="2" face="Courier New"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 10pt; "><o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; "><span><pastedGraphic.tiff></span></div></span></blockquote></div></div></div><br><br><br>____________________________________________<br><br>SW-L SignWriting List<br><br>Post Message<br><a href="mailto:SW-L@majordomo.valenciacc.edu">SW-L@majordomo.valenciacc.edu</a><br><br>List Archives and Help<br><a href="http://www.signwriting.org/forums/swlist/">http://www.signwriting.org/forums/swlist/</a><br><br>Change Email Settings<br>http://majordomo.valenciacc.edu/mailman/listinfo/sw-l</blockquote></div><br></div></div><br><br><br>____________________________________________<br><br>SW-L SignWriting List<br><br>Post Message<br><a href="mailto:SW-L@majordomo.valenciacc.edu">SW-L@majordomo.valenciacc.edu</a><br><br>List Archives and Help<br>http://www.signwriting.org/forums/swlist/<br><br>Change Email Settings<br>http://majordomo.valenciacc.edu/mailman/listinfo/sw-l</blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>