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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Hi Steve and Valerie, <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>mh – I have had a
second look and did another Search by symbol procedure. What I can see is that
there is quite a number of signs with the correct “L – mouth”
but quite another number of signs show the “wrong – L – mouth”
- I have no idea ... perhaps something has to do with the day - when this new
symbol – tip of tongue between lips was included into the Symbol-Set? <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Stefan ;-)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:windowtext;font-weight:bold'>Von:</span></font></b><font
size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;
color:windowtext'> sw-l-bounces@majordomo.valenciacc.edu [mailto:sw-l-bounces@majordomo.valenciacc.edu]
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Im Auftrag von </span></b>Steve Slevinski<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Gesendet:</span></b> Donnerstag, 18.
September 2008 23:16<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>An:</span></b> SignWriting List<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Betreff:</span></b> Re: AW: [sw-l] SignPuddle
Online will be down today for maintenance...</span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Hi Stefan,<br>
<br>
Not to worry. We'll figure this out. As far as I can tell, the
conversion from the IMWA to the ISWA was nearly flawless.<br>
<br>
I've saved the pre-conversion SignPuddle 1.5 data based on the IMWA so we can
compare and reconvert if needed.<br>
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I've compared the German puddle based on the IMWA and the ISWA and I don't see
any conversion problems other than a slight positioning problem for a couple of
signs.<br>
<br>
Can you send me a list of a couple of signs that are incorrect?<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
-Steve<br>
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Stefan Wöhrmann wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Hi Valerie, Steve, <u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><u1:p> </u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I got a phonecall from a
friend who told me that many entries of the German SignPuddle got in disorder.
I had a look at it --- Remember my email about this some months
ago?? smile – Well – ok – - <u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><u1:p> </u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I guess that some great step
forward like adding all these wonderfull new symbols to the ISWA have
some minor disadvantages .like this .. so far as I could see lots and lots of
spelling mistakes occur now because there is a new order in the facial –
tongue – sequence, maybe the thumb-symbol is affected as well . Since we
Germans need these Mundbilder so badly it is clear that this is a problem..
What is to be done? Do you think we should take the German Puddle from public
use? Is there an option that only people with a special password can get access
– so that we will get the chance to slowly, slowly repair all these
mistakes?<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><u1:p> </u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>When I looked at the
dokuments of the literature puddle – of course these same problems are to
be seen. – hm <u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><u1:p> </u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Or do you think that
other/more changes will happen so that in the first place it would be
better to wait and see and breath in and out ... smile <u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><u1:p> </u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I am sorry that I have to
write this message – but who knows perhaps is there somehow a different
solution to this problem. What I do not know – do you think that somebody
needs these “Mundbilder” isolated from the head-circle? (I guess
this additional option causes the problem) At least I made some experiments in
the past and learned from that that the best way to read a sequence of different
Mundbilder fluently is to write the circle for the head as well ... as we do
... <u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><u1:p> </u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Looking forward to
hearing from you <u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><u1:p> </u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Stefan<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>Von:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
<a href="mailto:sw-l-bounces@majordomo.valenciacc.edu">sw-l-bounces@majordomo.valenciacc.edu</a>
[<a href="mailto:sw-l-bounces@majordomo.valenciacc.edu">mailto:sw-l-bounces@majordomo.valenciacc.edu</a>]
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Im Auftrag von </span></b>Valerie Sutton<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Ge</span></b></span></font><b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>sendet:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
Donnerstag, 18. September 2008 16:32<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>An:</span></b> SignWriting List<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Betreff:</span></b> [sw-l] SignPuddle Online will
be down today for maintenance...</span></font><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'><u1:p> </u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>SignWriting List<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>September 18, 2008<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>7:30 am Pacific Time<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'><u1:p> </u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Dear SW List Members!<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'><u1:p> </u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>SignPuddle Online will be down today, starting in
about one hour from now...because of programming being done on the web site.<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Steve is installing the International SignWriting
Alphabet 2008 (ISWA 2008) into the current SignPuddle 1.5, so we can start
using the ISWA 2008 immediately, even before the new SignPuddle 2.0 is ready.<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Yeah! I can't wait to use the ISWA 2008 ;-))<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>So do not try to work in SignPuddle today. I will
write again to tell you when you can use SignPuddle again....<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'>I am sooo happy!<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=1 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
9.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Valerie Sutton<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#0000F0'><a
href="mailto:Sutton@SignWriting.org" moz-do-not-send=true>Sutton@SignWriting.org</a></span></font></u><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=1 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#0000F0'><a
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=1 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#0000F0'><a
href="http://www.SignBank.org/signpuddle" moz-do-not-send=true>http://www.SignBank.org/signpuddle</a></span></font></u><o:p></o:p></p>
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