<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">The first one would have your palm facing the ground while the second would have your palm facing you. I hope this helps.<div><br></div><div>Adam</div><div><br><div><div>On Sep 28, 2008, at 3:32 PM, Natasha Escalada-Westland wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><div class="hmmessage" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; ">Could someone please explain to  me the differences between the following two symbols and how they might be used (or give examples of signs).<br><p align="left" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; "> </p><div align="left"><img src="http://www.signbank.org/SignPuddle1.5/symbol.php?sss=01-01-001-01-02-03&color=000000" atl="01-01-001-01-02-03"></div><div align="left"> </div><div align="left"> </div><div align="left"><img src="http://www.signbank.org/SignPuddle1.5/symbol.php?sss=01-01-001-01-05-03&color=000000" atl="01-01-001-01-05-03"></div> <br>It seems to me that one of them  might be physically or logically impossible, but I am fairly new at this.<br>Thank you! <br><br>Natasha Escalada-Westland, M.Ed. (D/HH), Macromedia Cert.<br>Westland Progeny,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><a href="http://www.westlandprogeny.com/" target="_blank">www.westlandprogeny.com</a><br><a href="http://www.westlandasl.com/" target="_blank">www.westlandasl.com</a><br><br><br> <br><br><br><br><br>____________________________________________<br><br>SW-L SignWriting List<br><br>Post Message<br><a href="mailto:SW-L@majordomo.valenciacc.edu">SW-L@majordomo.valenciacc.edu</a><br><br>List Archives and Help<br><a href="http://www.signwriting.org/forums/swlist/">http://www.signwriting.org/forums/swlist/</a><br><br>Change Email Settings<br><a href="http://majordomo.valenciacc.edu/mailman/listinfo/sw-l">http://majordomo.valenciacc.edu/mailman/listinfo/sw-l</a></div></span></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>