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<DIV align=left>So the handshape below would pretty much have to occur in the space right in front of your face...? Any lower and it would be written as a side-view, no? Again, thanks everybody for clarification. It helps to know that some shapes may or may not be commonly used.</DIV> <BR>
<DIV align=left><IMG src="http://www.signbank.org/SignPuddle1.5/symbol.php?sss=01-01-001-01-01-03&color=000000"><BR><BR>Natasha Escalada-Westland, M.Ed. (D/HH), Macromedia Cert.<BR>Westland Progeny, <BR><A href="http://www.westlandprogeny.com/" target=_blank>www.westlandprogeny.com</A><BR><A href="http://www.westlandasl.com/" target=_blank>www.westlandasl.com</A><BR><BR><BR> <BR><BR><BR>
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Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 03:52:59 -0700<BR>From: cwterp@yahoo.com<BR>Subject: Re: [sw-l] Group 1 handshape symbol differentiation<BR>To: sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu<BR><BR>
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<DIV>I think I see the problem...<BR><BR>Picture the hand palm facing you, index finger pointing straight up. Stick an imaginary pin thru your palm into the 'wall', and rotate the hand counter-clockwise 90 degrees. The index finger is now pointing to the left, palm is still facing you. This is the second image in your email below.<BR><BR>Now picture the hand palm facing UP, index finger pointing straight away from you. Stick the imaginary pin in the 'floor' and rotate counter clockwise 90 degrees. Your palm should be facing up, your index finger pointing to the left. It hurts my arm to do that. <BR><BR>For 'sometimes' the palm is most likely facing to the side, half black, half white.<BR><BR>cherie<BR></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman,new york,times,serif">----- Original Message ----<BR>From: Valerie Sutton <signwriting@mac.com><BR>To: SignWriting List <sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu><BR>Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2008 10:27:33 PM<BR>Subject: Re: [sw-l] Group 1 handshape symbol differentiation<BR><BR>
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<DIV>On Sep 28, 2008, at 7:00 PM, Natasha Escalada-Westland wrote:</DIV>
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<DIV class=EC_hmmessage style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">Thank you for all your replies! I really like the animations. They are helpful. Yet, after reading and looking at everything, I am still not completely sure. After reading Adam's post, perhaps now my question is, how are all these symbols different? Matching the symbols with whole signs has been very helpful to me in the past. I will try to describe the hand position to confirm if I understand.<BR> <BR>
<DIV align=left><IMG src="http://www.signbank.org/SignPuddle1.5/symbol.php?sss=01-01-001-01-04-03&color=000000"> This hand would be palm up, occurring in the lower portion of my sign space, the way I might sign "sometimes"</DIV> <BR>
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<DIV>Here are some examples of signs that use the Index Finger...see attached...</DIV>
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