<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><div>*Disclaimer* The following discussion is on advance writing. If you are still learning and are not very skilled (or don't feel that you are) and the following is confusing, don't worry. Just save it for a later day when it will become clearer. ;-)</div><div><br></div><div>Stefan, this is a very interesting question. I would like to know too. :-) </div><div><br></div><div>In a lesson that Lucinda and I worked on last summer -- Only part of it has been completed and placed on the web. The rest will be completed as time allows. So many projects going on -- I don't think that symbol was ever talked about, so I don't have that to help me remember exactly what that arrow means. So we will have to wait on Val for that. :-)</div><div><br></div><div>As far as going down forward at 45<font class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial">° angle, the arrow would be this:</font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial"><br></font></div><div><img height="110" width="67" apple-width="yes" apple-height="yes" src="cid:737F7F99-F715-47E9-9D58-D228BC82DC83@socal.rr.com"></div><div><br></div><div>Now because you said "almost 45<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial; ">°<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Helvetica; ">", I believe that I am right in my thinking, but I would like Val to verify it. So don't take my thought as "doctrine." ;-)</span></span></div><div><br></div><div><img height="92" width="67" apple-width="yes" apple-height="yes" src="cid:4AFB2CE8-BF8D-49EA-8DFC-86F0A1070975@socal.rr.com">I believe that this would be at a steeper slope than 45<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial; ">° -- more like 60°. So the difference between would be that the one that I wrote would finish out farther from the one that you wrote.</span></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial"><br></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial">So from side view, the first would be my writing and the second would be your writing. (That is, of course, if that is truly what the symbols mean.) Comments Val? ;-)</font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial"><br></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial"><img height="126" width="179" apple-width="yes" apple-height="yes" src="cid:20E0C497-26F4-41FD-8C70-40E6407318F4@socal.rr.com"></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial"><br></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial">Adam</font></div><div><br></div><div>PS If you couldn't tell from my disclaimer, I am in a very good mood which means that I add in puns in the least expected moments. ;-D</div><div><br></div><div>On Nov 3, 2008, at 1:29 PM, Stefan Wöhrmann wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><div lang="DE" link="blue" vlink="purple" style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div class="Section1"><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="4" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Arial; ">Hi Valerie and sw- friends –<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="4" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Arial; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="4" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Arial; ">.... we already discussed these kinds of movements on the diagonal plane<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="4" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Arial; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="4" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Arial; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="2" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="2" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; "><o:p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(20, 79, 174); font-size: 12px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: -1; "><img height="92" width="67" src="cid:2142B0C8-7F2C-44FD-ADA2-FF1FCF2645F8@socal.rr.com"></span></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="2" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="4" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Arial; ">do you agree : down and forward – almost 45°<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="4" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Arial; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="4" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Arial; ">Stefan ;-)<o:p></o:p></span></font></div></div><br><br><br>____________________________________________<br><br>SW-L SignWriting List<br><br>Post Message<br><a href="mailto:SW-L@majordomo.valenciacc.edu" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">SW-L@majordomo.valenciacc.edu</a><br><br>List Archives and Help<br><a href="http://www.signwriting.org/forums/swlist/" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; 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