<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">SignWriting List<div>November 27, 2008</div><div><br></div><div>Just a quick thought from me...</div><div><br></div><div>I believe it is related to "beginning readers and writers" and "skilled readers and writers"...</div><div><br></div><div>When we first started writing, with 10 native ASL signers, back in the 1980's, we all started writing in Receptive mode, and horizontally and from left to right...</div><div><br></div><div>Then, with experience, the writers requested Expressive and writing down in vertical columns...but that did not happen immediately...it took experience and lots of writing to become aware of what was needed...</div><div><br></div><div>Then, we began thinking that if the hands are parallel to the Floor Plane, then the side arrows should be on the Floor Plane too with single stems, and the planes should not be "mixed"...</div><div><br></div><div>But that is not true...over time we learned that, as we became more skilled in reading and writing literature, that a skilled reader or writer is able to mix planes without a problem...</div><div><br></div><div>So you might find that in time, the same Deaf students who did not want to mix planes in the beginning, will change their minds, over time, when their skills improve...</div><div><br></div><div>It is my experience, that mixing a single stemmed arrow to the side, with the hands parallel to the Wall plane, is not a problem for skilled readers and writers, whether they are Deaf or hearing, whether they are young or old...</div><div><br></div><div>That is our experience so far...</div><div><br></div><div>Of course, arrows to the side can be either double stemmed or single stemmed and they are not wrong either way...but just remember the skill of the student is part of the picture...this will be important for your research...</div><div><br></div><div>Val ;-)</div><div><br></div><div>-------</div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On Nov 27, 2008, at 10:54 AM, Gagnon et Thibeault wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Arial; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><div lang="DE" vlink="blue" link="blue" bgcolor="white"><div><strong><font face="Arial" color="#ffff00" size="6">Hi Adam, Stefan and eveyone,</font></strong></div><div><strong><font face="Arial" size="6"></font></strong> </div><div><strong><font face="Arial" color="#ffff00" size="6"> Adam and Stefan, thanks for your comments.</font></strong></div><div><strong><font face="Arial" size="6"></font></strong> </div><div><strong><font face="Arial" color="#ffff00" size="6"> Stefan, I prefer a single-stemmed arrows (left or right side). But I respect that Deaf teacher and Deaf kids prefer the hand on the wall plane (double-stemmed arrows) (only right or left side) and other hand on the floor plane (single-stemmed arrows) (only right or left side). Deaf teacher told me that Deaf students were succesful to read fast (B) than (A).</font></strong></div><div><strong><font face="Arial" size="6"></font></strong> </div><div><strong><font face="Arial" size="6"></font></strong> </div><div><strong><font face="Arial" color="#ffff00" size="6"> Hand waving</font></strong></div><div><strong><font face="Arial" size="6"></font></strong> </div><div><strong><font face="Arial" color="#ffff00" size="6"> André</font></strong></div><blockquote style="padding-right: 0px; padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px; border-left-color: rgb(255, 255, 0); border-left-width: 2px; border-left-style: solid; margin-right: 0px; "><div style="font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal arial; ">----- Original Message -----</div><div style="background-image: initial; background-repeat: initial; background-attachment: initial; -webkit-background-clip: initial; -webkit-background-origin: initial; background-color: rgb(228, 228, 228); font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal arial; background-position: initial initial; "><b>From:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a title="stefanwoehrmann@googlemail.com" href="mailto:stefanwoehrmann@googlemail.com" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">Stefan Wöhrmann</a></div><div style="font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal arial; "><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a title="sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu" href="mailto:sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">'SignWriting List'</a></div><div style="font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal arial; "><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Thursday, November 27, 2008 12:42 PM</div><div style="font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal arial; "><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>AW: [sw-l] Movement to the side</div><div><br></div><div class="Section1"><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font face="Arial" color="navy" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy; font-family: Arial; ">Hi Andrè,<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font face="Arial" color="navy" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy; font-family: Arial; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font face="Arial" color="navy" size="2"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy; font-family: Arial; ">I agree with Adams comment – it doesn’t matter. – smile – From my point of view – I prefer single stemmed arrows if the movement is directly to the left or right side. But this attitude developed over time – I guess it is a matter of clear structure .. .<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font face="Arial" color="navy" size="2"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy; font-family: Arial; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font face="Arial" color="navy" size="2"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy; font-family: Arial; ">Sometimes I hesitate if I should vote for top – down or frontview if a handorientation allows both options ... and in the past we discussed this point that almost always both hands in a sign should be written – (if possible) from the same point of view ( both hands top down, or both hands front view) But even here I decide to violate this “principle” if anything seems to prevent the reader to understand intuitively and alost without any hesitation.<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font face="Arial" color="navy" size="2"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy; font-family: Arial; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font face="Arial" color="navy" size="2"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy; font-family: Arial; ">So – my opinion – left and right movement – (if they are meant to be straight to the left and straight to the right) c a n be written with both arrows ( double stemmed and sinle stemmed) but in these cases I always vote for the single stemmed arrows.<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font face="Arial" color="navy" size="2"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy; font-family: Arial; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font face="Arial" color="navy" size="2"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy; font-family: Arial; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font face="Arial" color="navy" size="2"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy; font-family: Arial; ">Stefan ;-)<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font face="Arial" color="navy" size="2"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy; font-family: Arial; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font face="Arial" color="navy" size="2"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy; font-family: Arial; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font face="Arial" color="navy" size="2"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy; font-family: Arial; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align: center; margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt; "><hr tabindex="-1" align="center" width="100%" size="2"></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><b><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="font-weight: bold; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; ">Von:</span></font></b><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; "><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:sw-l-bounces@majordomo.valenciacc.edu" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">sw-l-bounces@majordomo.valenciacc.edu</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[<a href="mailto:sw-l-bounces@majordomo.valenciacc.edu" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">mailto:sw-l-bounces@majordomo.valenciacc.edu</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">Im Auftrag von<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b>Gagnon et Thibeault<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">Gesendet:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Donnerstag, 27. November 2008 18:04<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">An:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>SignWriting List<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">Betreff:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [sw-l] Movement to the side</span></font><o:p></o:p></div></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><strong><b><font face="Arial" color="yellow" size="6"><span style="font-size: 24pt; color: yellow; font-family: Arial; ">Hi Adam and everyone,</span></font></b></strong><o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt; "> <o:p></o:p></span></font></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><strong><b><font face="Arial" color="yellow" size="6"><span style="font-size: 24pt; color: yellow; font-family: Arial; "> Yes, (A) and (B) are correct or the same. But Deaf students'thinking is different from your thinking. For example, Deaf students develop a phonological analysis for different SW symbols (hand on the floor or wall plane and single-stemmed arrow (floor plane) and double-stemmed arrow (wall plane)). Deaf students found that they are more comfortable to read (B) than (A) because of the same wall planes. It is very important for me to understand how to acquire and learn a phonological analysis for Deaf kids, not Deaf adults. For example, a Deaf kid who is 7 years old is able to read (B) more easy than (A) according to Deaf teacher.</span></font></b></strong><o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt; "> <o:p></o:p></span></font></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><strong><b><font face="Arial" color="yellow" size="6"><span style="font-size: 24pt; color: yellow; font-family: Arial; "> I don't doubt that older kids are able to read either (A) and (B) than younger kids.</span></font></b></strong><o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt; "> <o:p></o:p></span></font></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><strong><b><font face="Arial" color="yellow" size="6"><span style="font-size: 24pt; color: yellow; font-family: Arial; "> Regards,</span></font></b></strong><o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt; "> <o:p></o:p></span></font></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><strong><b><font face="Arial" color="yellow" size="6"><span style="font-size: 24pt; color: yellow; font-family: Arial; "> André</span></font></b></strong><o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt; "> <o:p></o:p></span></font></div></div><blockquote style="border-right-width: medium; border-right-style: none; border-right-color: initial; padding-right: 0cm; border-top-width: medium; border-top-style: none; border-top-color: initial; padding-left: 4pt; padding-bottom: 0cm; margin-top: 5pt; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 5pt; margin-left: 3.75pt; border-left-color: yellow; border-left-width: 1.5pt; border-left-style: solid; padding-top: 0cm; border-bottom-width: medium; border-bottom-style: none; border-bottom-color: initial; "><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; ">----- Original Message -----<o:p></o:p></span></font></div></div><div><div style="background-image: initial; background-repeat: initial; background-attachment: initial; -webkit-background-clip: initial; -webkit-background-origin: initial; background-color: rgb(228, 228, 228); margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><b><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-weight: bold; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; ">From:</span></font></b><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; "><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a title="icemandeaf@gmail.com" href="mailto:icemandeaf@gmail.com" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">Adam Frost</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><b><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-weight: bold; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; ">To:</span></font></b><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; "><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a title="sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu" href="mailto:sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">SignWriting List</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><b><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-weight: bold; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; ">Sent:</span></font></b><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; "><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Thursday, November 27, 2008 11:03 AM<o:p></o:p></span></font></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><b><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-weight: bold; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; ">Subject:</span></font></b><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; "><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [sw-l] Movement to the side<o:p></o:p></span></font></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt; ">The difference between using the single stem arrow and double stem for side movements is just writers preference. Either is still correct. So (A) and (B) are the same. (C) and (D) have the hands on the floor plane which is different from (A) and (B). I am not surprise that the deaf students are talking about floor and wall planes. ;-)<o:p></o:p></span></font></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt; ">Adam<br><br>On Nov 27, 2008, at 7:15 AM, "Gagnon et Thibeault" <<a href="mailto:atg@videotron.ca" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">atg@videotron.ca</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></div></div><blockquote type="cite" style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt; "><div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><strong><b><font face="Arial" color="yellow" size="6"><span style="font-size: 24pt; color: yellow; font-family: Arial; ">Hi Val, Adam, Stefan and everyone,</span></font></b></strong><o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt; "> <o:p></o:p></span></font></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><strong><b><font face="Arial" color="yellow" size="6"><span style="font-size: 24pt; color: yellow; font-family: Arial; "> It is interesting that Deaf students talked about a front view and a top view.</span></font></b></strong><o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt; "> <o:p></o:p></span></font></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><strong><b><font face="Arial" color="yellow" size="6"><span style="font-size: 24pt; color: yellow; font-family: Arial; "> See my attached diagram. This is my writing (A) (DEFENDRE (French) = INTERDICT (English). Deaf students are confused to read it because they stopped reading and figured out it. Several Deaf students explained that the two hands are parallel with the front wall (front view), and the movement to the side with the single-stemmed arrows is viewed from the floor (top view). They suggested that the two hands are parallel with the front wall (front view), and the movement to the side with the double-stemmed arrows is viewed from the front wall (front view) (See the attached diagram (B) because Deaf students read it easily (the same front view). They told Deaf teacher if they use the two hands which are parallel with the floor, they use the movement to the side with the single-stemmed arrows whhich is viewed from the floor (top view) (See the attached diagram (C). They don't want to use (D) since they aren't conformtable to read it.</span></font></b></strong><o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt; "> <o:p></o:p></span></font></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt; "> <o:p></o:p></span></font></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><strong><b><font face="Arial" color="yellow" size="6"><span style="font-size: 24pt; color: yellow; font-family: Arial; "> I can't believe that Deaf students understand a concept of the front view and the top view.</span></font></b></strong><o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt; "> <o:p></o:p></span></font></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><strong><b><font face="Arial" color="yellow" size="6"><span style="font-size: 24pt; color: yellow; font-family: Arial; "> I adopt Deaf students'proposal.</span></font></b></strong><o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt; "> <o:p></o:p></span></font></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><strong><b><font face="Arial" color="yellow" size="6"><span style="font-size: 24pt; 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