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<DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial color=#ffff00 size=6>Hi Adam and
everyone,</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
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<DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial color=#ffff00 size=6> Yes, (A)
and (B) are correct or the same. But Deaf students'thinking is different
from your thinking. For example, Deaf students develop a phonological
analysis for different SW symbols (hand on the floor or wall plane and
single-stemmed arrow (floor plane) and double-stemmed arrow (wall plane)).
Deaf students found that they are more comfortable to read (B)
than (A) because of the same wall planes. It is very important
for me to understand how to acquire and learn a phonological analysis for Deaf
kids, not Deaf adults. For example, a Deaf kid who is 7 years old is able
to read (B) more easy than (A) according to Deaf
teacher.</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
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<DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial color=#ffff00 size=6> I don't
doubt that older kids are able to read either (A) and (B) than younger
kids.</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
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<DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial color=#ffff00 size=6>
Regards,</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
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<DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial color=#ffff00 size=6>
André</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
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<A title=icemandeaf@gmail.com href="mailto:icemandeaf@gmail.com">Adam
Frost</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, November 27, 2008 11:03
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [sw-l] Movement to the
side</DIV>
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<DIV>The difference between using the single stem arrow and double stem for
side movements is just writers preference. Either is still correct. So (A) and
(B) are the same. (C) and (D) have the hands on the floor plane which is
different from (A) and (B). I am not surprise that the deaf students are
talking about floor and wall planes. ;-)</DIV>
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<DIV>Adam<BR><BR>On Nov 27, 2008, at 7:15 AM, "Gagnon et Thibeault" <<A
href="mailto:atg@videotron.ca">atg@videotron.ca</A>> wrote:<BR><BR></DIV>
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<DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial color=#ffff00 size=6>Hi Val, Adam, Stefan and
everyone,</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
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<DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial color=#ffff00 size=6> It is
interesting that Deaf students talked about a front view and a top
view.</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
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<DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial color=#ffff00 size=6> See my
attached diagram. This is my writing (A) (DEFENDRE (French) =
INTERDICT (English). Deaf students are confused to read it because
they stopped reading and figured out it. Several Deaf students
explained that the two hands are parallel with the front wall (front view),
and the movement to the side with the single-stemmed arrows is viewed from
the floor (top view). They suggested that the two hands are
parallel with the front wall (front view), and the movement to the side with
the double-stemmed arrows is viewed from the front wall (front
view) (See the attached diagram (B) because Deaf students read it easily
(the same front view). They told Deaf teacher if they use the two
hands which are parallel with the floor, they use the movement to the side
with the single-stemmed arrows whhich is viewed from the floor (top view)
(See the attached diagram (C). They don't want to use (D) since they
aren't conformtable to read it.</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
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<DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial color=#ffff00 size=6> I
can't believe that Deaf students understand a concept of the front view and
the top view.</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
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<DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial color=#ffff00 size=6> I
adopt Deaf students'proposal.</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
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<DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial color=#ffff00 size=6>
Regards,</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
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<DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial color=#ffff00 size=6>
André</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
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<DIV><SW DEFENDRE.doc></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
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