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Ok, this example took me awhile because I was reading the handshapes in the signs, not thinking of the English alphabet at all... *grin* <BR>
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We've been working on classifiers and handshape stories the last week or so in class. Students worked on an assignment where they watched a short video that included many classifiers, and wrote the handshapes for all the classifiers they were able to identify. <BR>
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Then, as a subsequent exercise, students were given a series of "short story" assignments, in which they were supposed to invent short classifier stories based on a series of parameters such as:<BR>
Create a story using only the following handshapes in order - <IMG src="http://www.signbank.org/SignPuddle1.5/image.php?build=01-01-001-01-01-01,104,101"> <IMG src="http://www.signbank.org/SignPuddle1.5/image.php?build=01-02-001-01-01-01,98,97"> <IMG src="http://www.signbank.org/SignPuddle1.5/image.php?build=01-03-001-01-01-01,106,98"> <IMG src="http://www.signbank.org/SignPuddle1.5/image.php?build=01-04-001-01-01-01,109,103"> <IMG src="http://www.signbank.org/SignPuddle1.5/image.php?build=01-05-001-01-01-01,100,74"><BR>
Create a story based on the handshapes for your fingerspelled name or a five letter word...<BR>
and so on.<BR>
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We're having a story-telling competition on Friday. Some students have been using SW, recording the handshapes they use, to help them remember their stories as they develop and practice them.<BR><BR>Natasha Escalada-Westland, M.Ed. (D/HH), Macromedia Cert.<BR><A href="http://www.westlandasl.com/">www.westlandasl.com</A><BR><BR><BR> <BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>
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From: stefanwoehrmann@googlemail.com<BR>To: sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu<BR>Subject: AW: [sw-l] Handwriting<BR>Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 22:59:54 +0100<BR><BR><BR>
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<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Hi Kim </SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">another strategy to show the ease with wich SW can be of great advantage and especially in order to give an example how easy newcomers can identify quite a lot of different signs and how easy they can speed up their reading is to write words, sentences and in the end a whole story ( 1 page) with signs that represent only one letter. My experience with this task is always fantastic. The newcomers love it because they accomplish quite a lot in a very, very short time of instruction. Just explain the meaning of all the flashcards (A - Z) without discussing the whys about the spelling. Just let them remember the terms ( apple, bus, cat ...) </SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Can you read this ( smile) - it should be no problem --but perhaps a quite new method to write this word </SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">So – yes start with SW from the very beginning. </SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Stefan ;-)</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">-----Ursprüngl</SPAN>iche Nachricht-----<BR>Von: sw-l-bounces@majordomo.valenciacc.edu [mailto:sw-l-bounces@majordomo.valenciacc.edu] Im Auftrag von Kimberley Shaw<BR>Gesendet: Dienstag, 9. Dezember 2008 22:09<BR>An: SignWriting List<BR>Betreff: Re: [sw-l] Handwriting</FONT></P>
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<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Hello all:</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">but what about using handwritten SW with *adult* students of ASL? I am</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">about (for the first time ever!) to teach a short class of</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">intro-to-ASL on a college campus. Since SW has helped me enormously</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">with retaining new vocabulary, I hope it will help my students as well</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">... I'm imagining a set of "your 1st 50 ASL signs" in flashcard</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">format, and maybe they can transcribe from blackboard onto their own</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">cards (reinforce the new signs!). Or would it be more confusing than</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">helpful?</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Have any of you attempted to use SW with adult beginners of signed languages?</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Best,</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Kim from Boston</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">On 12/8/08, Stefan Wöhrmann <stefanwoehrmann@gebaerdenschrift.de> wrote:</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> Hi Stuart,</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> </SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> thank you very much for your comment. I would like to afform that I go</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> along with your thoughts. One problem – I see – we would not be good</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> teachers if we think to write by hand is an easy to accomplish task for</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> children. No it is not true. SignWriting by hand is difficult and it takes</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> many many hours of practice and a teacher who enables them to keep</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> motivated. It is a time consuming and slow – and in a surrounding where</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> everything and all is oriented towards spoken languge you would not expect a</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> child to develop higher skills in an area if there are no adults who really</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> understand ...</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> </SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> </SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> </SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> And what you suggest is a brilliant idea – we need to compare the symbols</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> as they are printed with noble software – and what they look like if written</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> by hand. That is the reason Valerie that I am so interested in the first</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> handwritten documents – .. smile ... just to compare the way other</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> handwriters tried to find their way to write double circular movements,</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> hands parallel to the floor, .... smile</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> </SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> </SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> Attached another handwritten document of a SignWriting enthusiast – smile –</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> next to a railway-track</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> </SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> All the best</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> </SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> </SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> Stefan ;-)</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> </SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> _____</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> Von: sw-l-bounces@majordomo.valenciacc.edu</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> [mailto:sw-l-bounces@majordomo.valenciacc.edu] Im Auftrag von Stuart</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> Thiessen</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> Gesendet: Montag, 8. Dezember 2008 18:06</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> An: SignWriting List</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> Betreff: Re: [sw-l] Handwriting</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> </SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> </SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> Valerie, I understand your point about learning to handprint before doing</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> cursive, etc.</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> </SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> </SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> </SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> But I still believe that one of the barriers to acceptance of SignWriting by</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> some people is the fact that it appears to be slow to write by hand. I know</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> that there is a long history of writing by hand before the various programs</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> that we have today. My point simply is that the information that people have</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> now is focused on the computer program which is a very important element.</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> But also there is a very important element of having a handwritten form that</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> is simpler than the printed form and more easily written.</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> </SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> </SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> </SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> When people can see both styles of writing (printed and written), then that</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> will open up new arguments for the usefulness of SignWriting in everyday</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> life.</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> </SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> </SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> </SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> So, I know the ISWA has been your priority for now, and it is an important</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> priority. And more is still going on that. This is just something that will</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> need to be resolved at some point.</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> </SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> </SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> </SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> One suggestion I have is that maybe at some point you introduce handwritten</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> forms for each of the ISWA symbols. So a person can look up an ISWA symbol</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> and see both the printed form and the handwritten form. So as they practice</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> on the computer or on a piece of paper, they can learn to use and read the</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> system both ways.</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> </SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> </SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> </SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> Hebrew, for example, has the same alphabet, but the exact form of the letter</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> varies depending on which written form of Hebrew you use (Cursive, Rashi, or</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> the printed form). (See the chart at</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hebrew_alphabet).</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> </SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> </SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> Like you've said before, it may be that we will have different "fonts" or</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> writing styles for SignWriting, but I think it will encourage people to also</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> write by hand if there is a way to write it simply. Then they start doing</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> grocery lists and quick notes to family and class notes and eventually it</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> becomes a part of their everyday handwriting strategies.</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> I admit for myself that I rarely handwrite SignWriting because the printed</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> On Dec 8, 2008, at 10:35 , Valerie Sutton wrote:</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> December 8, 2008</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> Hello Andre -</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> In a SignWriting curriculum, for children, I would put learning SW</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> Handwriting in the third year...</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> Just as it explains on these web pages:</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> http://www.signwriting.org/lessons/cursive/curs003.html</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> http://www.signwriting.org/lessons/cursive/curs004.html</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> In any written form, writing in a "faster cursive style" takes skill. Plus</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> SignWriting does not have the documentation ready for teaching formal SW</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> Handwriting...</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> Therefore, when we were young children learning to write English characters,</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> we did not start by learning English cursive-handwriting...we started with</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> hand-printing each English character carefully, writing them in rows and</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> rows until we became skilled...</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> Then, after learning how to write in this perfect hand-printing style, after</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> around the second grade...for me it was in the third grade...I started to</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> learn to write real handwriting in school (for English)...so based on that</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> experience, I suggest that SW handprinting should be taught the first two</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> years of a SignWriting curriculum, and the SW handwriting starts around the</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> third year in school...</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> Stefan has some experience with this...His student, Eduard, who is writing</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> in the picture on the front page of our web site, is a skilled SignWriting</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> student, having been in Stefan's classroom for several years...so he started</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> the handwriting later, after getting familiar with SW in general...</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> So that is my advice...Your students and teachers are beginners or at least,</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> in their first year of learning and using SW, so maybe the handwriting</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> should wait until next year?</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> But they could try some of these Handprinting techniques right now:</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> On Dec 8, 2008, at 8:05 AM, Gagnon et Thibeault wrote:</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> Hi Val, Anne-Claude and everyone,</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> Anny, I don't ask that you translate a SW handwriting's web pages. You</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> translate only two words : handprinting and handwriting.</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> I mean that I need only a section "Quick dailly writing". I am</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> writing a LSQ curriculum for a SW writing. I understand that you need to</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> write new books. No problem. I am trying better to describe a SW</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> handwriting (quick daily writing).</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> I believe that Deaf students write a SW handprinting because teachers</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> don't know about SW handwriting norms (Quick daily writing).</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> André</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> From: <mailto:signwriting@mac.com> Valerie Sutton</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> To: <mailto:sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu> SignWriting List</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> Cc: <mailto:atg@videotron.ca> Gagnon et Thibeault</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 10:12 AM</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> Hello Andre and Anny -</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> There is no document to translate...smile...but there are web pages.</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> There are six sections and each section has several web pages...I do not</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> know if Andre really needs a translation of those web pages into French?</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> I have nothing else to give you right now, Andre...More books on Handwriting</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> will have to wait for awhile, since I am so behind on other books that need</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> is quite an artist with SW calligraphy, don't you think?</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> <http://www.SignWriting.org> http://www.SignWriting.org</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> Stefan will be sending us more photos of the finished art later...i look</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> Anny, I would like you to translate a handprinting and a handwriting</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> Val, I am writing a LSQ curriculum from grade 7th to 8th including SW</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> reading and SW writing now. But, I don't know about handwriting</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> norms. I would like you to explain me handwriting norms in general. You</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> remember that you gave a handwriting course to some participants one year</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> ago. I love learning it. I don't mean that participants do their homework</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> but they read only instructions. Would you give us general explanations or</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> instructions of handwriting norms which help me write and explain a LSQ</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> curriculum including SW writing ? You don't need an explanation of the</SPAN></FONT></P>
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