<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">SignWriting List<div>January 6, 2009</div><div><br></div><div>Hello Stefan and Tini and Everyone!</div><div><br></div><div>Wow. Thanks for the attached document and for the video on YouTube...</div><div><br></div><div>And congratulations on all your hard work...this is a beautiful document ;-)</div><div><br></div><div>Go right ahead and use it with your students - I bet they will have a lot of fun with it!</div><div><br></div><div>Maybe the first column isn't necessary? It is a little hard to read...but once the arm movements really start and the rest of the document I could definitely read!</div><div><br></div><div>At the moment we do not have a DanceWriting List, nor do I want to start one ....Technically your document is a blend of the more modern way we write SignWriting and some of the old DanceWriting...but it really doesn't look like real DanceWriting...but that is ok...it doesn't have to!</div><div><br></div><div>It is more "movement Writing" ;-))</div><div><br></div><div>You see, DanceWriting is a related system, but it is handled differently than this document...</div><div><br></div><div>Regarding the old DanceWriting...it is not written receptively or expressively...it is written from the "audience's viewpoint", so if the dancer faces you, you write the body facing you...that is like receptive, but the difference is that when the dancer turns the body and is facing the side wall, you the writer still stay in the audience, so you then write the body facing the side wall, just as you see it in real life...a dotted line is used to show the side wall viewpoint...and if the dancer turns to have the back to the audience, then you write what you see if you were sitting in the audience...so then you would write the back of the dancer at that time...</div><div><br></div><div>I used to write the dances of the Royal Danish Ballet while sitting out in the audience....that is how that "stage view" started...</div><div><br></div><div>So if I were writing the video on YouTube, I would instinctively write it as if I were sitting in the audience which is very different than writing it from the dancer's perspective, which is what I believe you are writing...and that is fine...go right ahead!</div><div><br></div><div>We never used overhead views in DanceWriting...those came into SignWriting years later, and of course I guess the overhead view could be used in DanceWriting now, taking it from SignWriting, but because DanceWriting was based on writing while sitting in the audience, an overhead view was never considered...</div><div><br></div><div>DanceWriting is oftentimes written under music scores with a five lined staff that is like what written music is written on...five lines...</div><div><br></div><div>But SignWriting does not use a five lined staff to show levels or height of a jump or a bend etc...it is a different world...</div><div><br></div><div>So I was in the professional ballet world and we had our own profession...</div><div><br></div><div>Your document is fine for your students and a lot of fun! Please go ahead and use it...</div><div><br></div><div>I had a little problem reading the first column...is that writing the beginning of the video on YouTube? I think you are trying to shake your shoulders while going up and down with bent legs, at least that is what I saw in the video...but I could not have read the first column as that, because there are no bending knees and straightening legs...</div><div><br></div><div>For me, I need the lower body to really write this, but your writing is fun because you are really writing only the upper body except for the jumping...by the way, a jumping arrow is a little different in DanceWriting but I think your three lines that look like the floor are wonderful! Very descriptive!</div><div><br></div><div>I believe you are starting teaching again tomorrow? ENJOY!!</div><div><br></div><div>Regarding DanceWriting, we have a whole library of books you can download for free on the internet if you are interested...They are not really instruction books, but more Sheet Dance literature...but fun to download....</div><div><br></div><div>DanceWriting Library</div><div><a href="http://www.DanceWriting.org/library">http://www.DanceWriting.org/library</a></div><div><br></div><div>Notice the Jumping Arrow on this web page:</div><div><a href="http://www.dancewriting.org/lessons/dwless001.html">http://www.dancewriting.org/lessons/dwless001.html</a></div><div><br></div><div>The jumping arrow is placed under the feet of the jumping figure ;-)</div><div><br></div><div>Anyway, I must go to bed now...Thanks for sharing with us and tell us how it goes with your students writing the Macarena!!</div><div><br></div><div>Val ;-)</div><div><br></div><div>-----------</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On Jan 6, 2009, at 4:28 PM, Stefan Wöhrmann wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Arial; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><div lang="DE" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="Section1"><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="2" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; ">Hi Valerie, Tini, dancewriters, movementwriters und SW-list friends –<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="2" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="2" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; ">I came across a youtube video. Here a young lady explains the dance –movements of a disco dance: Macarena<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="2" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; "><a href="http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=vlzwuFkn88U&feature=related" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; "><span lang="EN-GB">http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=vlzwuFkn88U&feature=related</span></a></span></font><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="2" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="2" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="2" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; ">I would like to use it in my class as a project for a wonderful demonstration of the benefits of quick handwriting – and afterwards carefully transcription with a computer program.<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="2" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; ">I would ask you for your feeling, ideas, impressions.<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="2" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; ">Can you understand?<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="2" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="2" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; ">Well in fact the timing of the beat is still missing and if you look at the video you see that they move from the right foot to the left foot while doing these other things with their hands and arms. So many things to keep in mind. ( And in the beginning she explains to start with the right hand – but – hm …. ???<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="2" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="2" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; ">Have fun – and thanks for any comments<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="2" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="2" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; ">Stefan ;-)<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><img height="823" width="838" src="cid:4F5EEC84-B632-45ED-A0ED-4471B5326BC8"></div><br><br><br>____________________________________________<br><br>SW-L SignWriting List<br><br>Post Message<br><a href="mailto:SW-L@majordomo.valenciacc.edu" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">SW-L@majordomo.valenciacc.edu</a><br><br>List Archives and Help<br><a href="http://www.signwriting.org/forums/swlist/" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://www.signwriting.org/forums/swlist/</a><br><br>Change Email Settings<br><a href="http://majordomo.valenciacc.edu/mailman/listinfo/sw-l" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://majordomo.valenciacc.edu/mailman/listinfo/sw-l</a></div></span></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>