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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>No, a wrist flex is not the right one - the hand
stays in line with the lower part of the arm.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>So the quarter circle is from the elbow,
forward/down.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The only reason I want to put in an arrow, is
because I feel this is just one sign, but maybe it really two, and then the
arrow should not be there ...</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Norwegian Deaf would have the mouth movements,
pronouncing just the one word "DØV" (DEAF). not "DU" (YOU") or "are"
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Ingvild</FONT></DIV>
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<P>I think from what you described that if you wanted to add a movement arrow,
the wrist flex would be the one that you want. Do you agree, Ingvild? Adam On
Mar 6, 2009, at 11:26 PM, Valerie Sutton wrote: SignWriting List March 6, 2009
On Mar 6, 2009, at 6:30 AM, <A
href="mailto:iroald@hotmail.com">iroald@hotmail.com</A> wrote: How would you
write the movement of the hand in this sign? The elbow may stay in touch with
the side of the body at all times, the hand just arches down from the ear to
forward. The sign is the neutral question "Are you deaf?". I know I could choose
one of the slanting-down-forward arrows, but it does not feel right - too
elaborate in a way. It is also possible to let the sign stay as it is, it should
be perfectly legible, but then again it would not seem to be just one sign,
would it? Ingvild Hello Ingvild and everyone - Thanks for this question. I agree
that a movement arrow is not needed. Is this really one sign? It sounds like it
is more like a compound sign...a combination of DEAF and YOU... Anyway, I think
the ear symbol is needed in the second position too, to show that the second
hand position, which is pointing forward, is still near the ear...Even if the
second hand is not near the ear, I think the ear should be on the second head
because it feels like there is still a relationship with it and it looks funny
when it disappears...at least for me...If you see this as one sign, then the two
positions might be a little closer to each other too...See attached diagram.
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