<html><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>Yes, it does, but placing it on the same side isn't clear exactly what the thumb is doing. It is just a choice that was done to make it easier to read which is what we really want. I mean, the same thing can be argued with other written forms of other languages. They follow certian conventions even when it doesn't perfectly match across the board. Take a look at English. How many times have people said that something doesn't make sense? So that is where we are at now. You can take what you want with it. Just make sure it is clear to the reader what you are doing if you are expecting your writings to be read by others. :-)</div><div><br></div><div>Adam <br><br>On May 31, 2009, at 7:41 PM, "Charles Butler" <<a href="mailto:chazzer3332000@yahoo.com">chazzer3332000@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0"><tbody><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;">I have to agree with the new possible writing with a hooked finger and thumb sticking out to the side. Trying to put the finger on the opposite side to keep it from being related really defies all visual sense. <br><br>Charles<br><br><br>--- On <b>Sun, 5/31/09, Stefan Wöhrmann <i><<a href="mailto:stefanwoehrmann@gebaerdenschrift.de">stefanwoehrmann@gebaerdenschrift.de</a>></i></b> wrote:<br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"><br>From: Stefan Wöhrmann <<a href="mailto:stefanwoehrmann@gebaerdenschrift.de">stefanwoehrmann@gebaerdenschrift.de</a>><br>Subject: AW: [sw-l] Namibia handshape construction<br>To: "'SignWriting List'" <<a href="mailto:sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu">sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu</a>><br>Date: Sunday, May 31, 2009, 11:54 AM<br><br><div class="plainMail">Hi Valerie and Everyone, <br><br>well this is another sequence - but I have got a problem to see - what you<br>see - hm <br><br>I really would prefer a
different spelling following the idea of the fist<br>and second handshape - symbol - but ... what else can I do to understand<br>your suggestion? <br><br>Do not want to bother you with this - but Learning IS FUN ( right Tini??<br>Smile ) <br><br>All the best <br><br>Stefan ;-)<br><br><br><br><br>-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----<br>Von: <a ymailto="mailto:sw-l-bounces@majordomo.valenciacc.edu" href="/mc/compose?to=sw-l-bounces@majordomo.valenciacc.edu"><a href="mailto:sw-l-bounces@majordomo.valenciacc.edu">sw-l-bounces@majordomo.valenciacc.edu</a></a><br>[mailto:<a ymailto="mailto:sw-l-bounces@majordomo.valenciacc.edu" href="/mc/compose?to=sw-l-bounces@majordomo.valenciacc.edu"><a href="mailto:sw-l-bounces@majordomo.valenciacc.edu">sw-l-bounces@majordomo.valenciacc.edu</a></a>] Im Auftrag von Valerie Sutton<br>Gesendet: Sonntag, 31. Mai 2009 15:58<br>An: SignWriting List<br>Cc: Stefan Wöhrmann<br>Betreff: Re: [sw-l] Namibia handshape construction<br><br>SignWriting List<br>May 31, 2009<br><br>Hello Stefan and Everyone!<br>Thank you for this question. And your photos
and writings are always <br>so beautiful! Congrats on all you are doing, Stefan....<br><br>Regarding the handshape in SignWriting...<br><br>The photo of your hand is different than the writing of the handshape <br>you are showing in the SignWriting example you have attached...The <br>thumb is to the side in your photo...not forward...<br><br>So basing it on the photo with the thumb to the side, we have that <br>handshape already in the ISWA....I know you will be creating TrueType <br>fonts, and that is great...but I am happy it is in the ISWA too, so I <br>can show you what I mean...please see my attached screen capture...the <br>handshape is in Group 9...the thumb to the side needs the thumb line <br>on the other side of the rectangle base from the index finger, because <br>when the thumb line is on the same side as the bent Index finger, that <br>would show that the thumb and the index finger
are relating to each <br>other and it means that the thumb line is forward pointing in the same <br>direction as the Index finger...So if you want the thumb to look like <br>it is pointing in another direction other than the index finger, you <br>need the thumb line on the other side of the rectangle base of the <br>hand...please see my attached diagram:<br><br></div><br>-----Inline Attachment Follows-----<br><br><div class="plainMail"><br><br><br>____________________________________________<br><br>SW-L SignWriting List<br><br>Post Message<br><a ymailto="mailto:SW-L@majordomo.valenciacc.edu" href="/mc/compose?to=SW-L@majordomo.valenciacc.edu"><a href="mailto:SW-L@majordomo.valenciacc.edu">SW-L@majordomo.valenciacc.edu</a></a><br><br>List Archives and Help<br><a href="http://www.signwriting.org/forums/swlist/" target="_blank"><a href="http://www.signwriting.org/forums/swlist/">http://www.signwriting.org/forums/swlist/</a></a><br><br>Change Email Settings<br><a href="http://majordomo.valenciacc.edu/mailman/listinfo/sw-l" target="_blank"><a href="http://majordomo.valenciacc.edu/mailman/listinfo/sw-l">http://majordomo.valenciacc.edu/mailman/listinfo/sw-l</a></a></div></blockquote></td></tr></tbody></table></div></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><div><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>____________________________________________</span><br><span></span><br><span>SW-L SignWriting List</span><br><span></span><br><span>Post Message</span><br><span><a href="mailto:SW-L@majordomo.valenciacc.edu">SW-L@majordomo.valenciacc.edu</a></span><br><span></span><br><span>List Archives and Help</span><br><span><a href="http://www.signwriting.org/forums/swlist/">http://www.signwriting.org/forums/swlist/</a></span><br><span></span><br><span>Change Email Settings</span><br><span><a href="http://majordomo.valenciacc.edu/mailman/listinfo/sw-l">http://majordomo.valenciacc.edu/mailman/listinfo/sw-l</a></span></div></blockquote></body></html>