<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;">I thought that the arms actually turned around, not straight out.  I read this strictly as the "i" fingers making an arc, not actually turning the wrist around.<div><br></div><div>This is how I would sign independence.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: Times; font-size: 16px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; "><table cellpadding="5" border="0"><tbody><tr><td valign="top"><table cellpadding="5" border=""><tbody><tr><td><img src="http://www.signbank.org/SignPuddle1.5/image.php?build=01-06-008-01-01-02,73,89,01-06-008-01-01-10,113,90,04-02-001-01-01-01,94,101,02-09-005-01-01-09,102,59,02-09-005-01-02-01,82,59,"><p><b>independence</b></p></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></span><br>--- On <b>Sat, 7/4/09, Adam Frost
 <i><icemandeaf@gmail.com></i></b> wrote:<br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"><br>From: Adam Frost <icemandeaf@gmail.com><br>Subject: Re: AW: [sw-l] Happy Fourth!<br>To: "SignWriting List" <sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu><br>Date: Saturday, July 4, 2009, 4:47 PM<br><br><div class="plainMail">I would write Happy Independence Day as:<br><br></div><div class="plainMail"><br><br><br>But there might be some people who would rather have the initialized version of independence as here:<br><br></div><div class="plainMail"><br><br><br>Adam<br><br>On Jul 4, 2009, at 1:24 PM, Stefan Wöhrmann wrote:<br><br>> Hello Adam and list-members,<br>> A minute ago I googled a bit around "happy Fourth" .. ok - now I am<br>> informed. - smile -<br>><br>> Well the nixt idea has been - what would a greeting card look like  <br>> and I<br>> found the follwing website -<br>><br>> <a
 href="http://www.deafresources.com/card/holindependence.php" target="_blank">http://www.deafresources.com/card/holindependence.php</a><br>><br>><br>> What a great chance to develop a real SL - ASL card -<br>><br>> How would you express this<br>><br>> "Happy Independence day?"<br>><br>> Have a great Saturday<br>><br>> Stefan ;-)<br>><br>><br>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----<br>> Von: <a ymailto="mailto:sw-l-bounces@majordomo.valenciacc..edu" href="/mc/compose?to=sw-l-bounces@majordomo.valenciacc.edu">sw-l-bounces@majordomo.valenciacc.edu</a><br>> [mailto:<a ymailto="mailto:sw-l-bounces@majordomo.valenciacc.edu" href="/mc/compose?to=sw-l-bounces@majordomo.valenciacc.edu">sw-l-bounces@majordomo.valenciacc.edu</a>] Im Auftrag von Adam  <br>> Frost<br>> Gesendet: Samstag, 4. Juli 2009 20:41<br>> An: SignWriting List<br>> Betreff: [sw-l] Happy Fourth!<br>><br>> I just wanted to wish the Americans on the list a Happy Independence<br>> Day. And I hope all
 is going well with all of the list readers around<br>> the world as well. :-)<br>><br>> Adam<br>><br>><br>><br>> ____________________________________________<br>><br>> SW-L SignWriting List<br>><br>> Post Message<br>> <a ymailto="mailto:SW-L@majordomo.valenciacc.edu" href="/mc/compose?to=SW-L@majordomo.valenciacc.edu">SW-L@majordomo.valenciacc.edu</a><br>><br>> List Archives and Help<br>> <a href="http://www.signwriting.org/forums/swlist/" target="_blank">http://www.signwriting.org/forums/swlist/</a><br>><br>> Change Email Settings<br>> <a href="http://majordomo.valenciacc.edu/mailman/listinfo/sw-l" target="_blank">http://majordomo.valenciacc.edu/mailman/listinfo/sw-l</a><br>><br>><br>><br>><br>><br>><br>> ____________________________________________<br>><br>> SW-L SignWriting List<br>><br>> Post Message<br>> <a ymailto="mailto:SW-L@majordomo.valenciacc.edu" href="/mc/compose?to=SW-L@majordomo.valenciacc.edu">SW-L@majordomo.valenciacc.edu</a><br>><br>>
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