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Hello Steve,<div><br> I am curious...What is the difference between the PocketPuddle and the SignPuddle reader? Thanks!<div><br></div><div>Sharon</div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 10:31:14 -0400<br>From: sw-l-request@majordomo.valenciacc.edu<br>Subject: SW-L Digest, Vol 24, Issue 78<br>To: sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu<br><br><pre>Send SW-L mailing list submissions to<br> sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu<br> <br>To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<br> <a href="http://majordomo.valenciacc.edu/mailman/listinfo/sw-l">http://majordomo.valenciacc.edu/mailman/listinfo/sw-l</a><br>or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<br> sw-l-request@majordomo.valenciacc.edu<br> <br>You can reach the person managing the list at<br> sw-l-owner@majordomo.valenciacc.edu<br> <br>When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br>than "Re: Contents of SW-L digest..."<br></pre><br><br>--Forwarded Message Attachment--<br>From: gerard.meijssen@gmail.com<br>To: sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu<br>Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 09:51:23 +0200<br>Subject: Re: [sw-l] Pocket Puddles<br><br>Hoi,<br>I have started to experiment with "twitter".. I tweeted that the MediaWiki plugin will be later because of the presentation to Wikimania not being considered.. Do you have a timetable for that Steve ?<br><br><br>Thanks,<br> Gerard<br><br><div class="EC_gmail_quote">2009/7/25 Steve Slevinski <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:slevin@signpuddle.net">slevin@signpuddle.net</a>></span><br><blockquote class="EC_gmail_quote" style="padding-left:1ex"><br><br><br><br><br> <br><br><div><br>Hi Stephen,<br><br><br><br>The PocketPuddles are on my list. Currently, I'm finishing up the new<br>SignText. Then I'll be updating SignPuddle Online and the PocketPuddle<br>to use BSW and the new SignMaker and SignText. Then I have the<br>MediaWiki Plugin and the SignPuddle Reader to finish.<br><br><br><br>So the PocketPuddles could be ready maybe in September. Wish I was<br>better at estimates.<br><br><br><br>Regards,<br><br>-Steve<br><br><br><br>Stephen Jones wrote:<br><blockquote><div><div></div><div class="h5">Hello,<br><br> <br><br>I was wondering when is the new pocket puddle going to be available?<br><br> <br><br>~Stephen<br><br> </div></div><pre><hr size="4" width="90%"><div class="EC_im"><br><br><br><br>____________________________________________<br><br>SW-L SignWriting List<br><br>Post Message<br><a href="mailto:SW-L@majordomo.valenciacc.edu">SW-L@majordomo.valenciacc.edu</a><br><br>List Archives and Help<br><a href="http://www.signwriting.org/forums/swlist/">http://www.signwriting.org/forums/swlist/</a><br><br>Change Email Settings<br><a href="http://majordomo.valenciacc.edu/mailman/listinfo/sw-l">http://majordomo.valenciacc.edu/mailman/listinfo/sw-l</a></div></pre><br></blockquote><br></div><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>____________________________________________<br><br><br><br>SW-L SignWriting List<br><br><br><br>Post Message<br><br><a href="mailto:SW-L@majordomo.valenciacc.edu">SW-L@majordomo.valenciacc.edu</a><br><br><br><br>List Archives and Help<br><br><a href="http://www.signwriting.org/forums/swlist/">http://www.signwriting.org/forums/swlist/</a><br><br><br><br>Change Email Settings<br><br><a href="http://majordomo.valenciacc.edu/mailman/listinfo/sw-l">http://majordomo.valenciacc.edu/mailman/listinfo/sw-l</a><br></blockquote></div><br><br><br><br>--Forwarded Message Attachment--<br>From: orionsc37@hotmail.com<br>To: sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu<br>Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 10:45:50 -0400<br>Subject: [sw-l] RE: SW-L Digest, Vol 24, Issue 77<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>Thanks for keeping us posted about the new software. Remember, I am still in line for a PocketPuddle. :-)<div><br class="EC_webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>Sharon <br><br>Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 23:40:32 -0400<br>From: sw-l-request@majordomo.valenciacc.edu<br>Subject: SW-L Digest, Vol 24, Issue 77<br>To: sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu<br><br><pre>Send SW-L mailing list submissions to<br> sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu<br> <br>To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<br> <a href="http://majordomo.valenciacc.edu/mailman/listinfo/sw-l">http://majordomo.valenciacc.edu/mailman/listinfo/sw-l</a><br>or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<br> sw-l-request@majordomo.valenciacc.edu<br> <br>You can reach the person managing the list at<br> sw-l-owner@majordomo.valenciacc.edu<br> <br>When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br>than "Re: Contents of SW-L digest..."<br></pre><br><br>--Forwarded Message Attachment--<br>From: sutton@signwriting.org<br>To: sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu<br>Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 09:28:27 -0700<br>Subject: Re: [sw-l] Pocket Puddles<br><br><pre>SignWriting List<br>July 25, 2009<br> <br>On Jul 25, 2009, at 9:11 AM, Stephen Jones wrote:<br>> I was wondering when is the new pocket puddle going to be available?<br>> ~Stephen<br> <br>Hi Stephen, Steve and everyone -<br> <br>Of course Steve can best answer this...<br> <br>But it is my understanding that Steve is working on upgrading <br>SignPuddle Online, the PocketPuddle, and the PersonalPuddle to all <br>work with the new SignWriting Image Server (SWIS) and a new version of <br>SignText...<br> <br>The goal is to be ready by the end of August, since there are others <br>who need the PocketPuddle by September 1st, so that is our goal...but <br>there is a busy month ahead...<br> <br>Val ;-)<br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br></pre><br><br>--Forwarded Message Attachment--<br>From: slevin@signpuddle.net<br>To: sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu<br>Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 11:32:30 -0500<br>Subject: Re: [sw-l] Pocket Puddles<br><br><br><br><br><br><br> <br><br><br>Hi Stephen,<br><br><br><br>The PocketPuddles are on my list. Currently, I'm finishing up the new<br>SignText. Then I'll be updating SignPuddle Online and the PocketPuddle<br>to use BSW and the new SignMaker and SignText. Then I have the<br>MediaWiki Plugin and the SignPuddle Reader to finish.<br><br><br><br>So the PocketPuddles could be ready maybe in September. Wish I was<br>better at estimates.<br><br><br><br>Regards,<br><br>-Steve<br><br><br><br>Stephen Jones wrote:<br><blockquote cite="mid:d61683040907250911u1ce37766q31d33c071ea80223@mail.gmail.com">Hello,<br><br> <br><br>I was wondering when is the new pocket puddle going to be available?<br><br> <br><br>~Stephen<br><br> <pre><br><hr size="4" width="90%"><br><br><br><br>____________________________________________<br><br>SW-L SignWriting List<br><br>Post Message<br><a class="EC_EC_moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:SW-L@majordomo.valenciacc.edu">SW-L@majordomo.valenciacc.edu</a><br><br>List Archives and Help<br><a class="EC_EC_moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.signwriting.org/forums/swlist/">http://www.signwriting.org/forums/swlist/</a><br><br>Change Email Settings<br><a class="EC_EC_moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://majordomo.valenciacc.edu/mailman/listinfo/sw-l">http://majordomo.valenciacc.edu/mailman/listinfo/sw-l</a></pre><br></blockquote><br><br><br><br><br>--Forwarded Message Attachment--<br>From: swterp@gmail.com<br>To: sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu<br>Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 11:38:13 -0500<br>Subject: Re: [sw-l] Pocket Puddles<br><br>Hi,<br><br>No problem. Thanks for the quick reply. I look forward to all the updates! Thanks for all your hard work!<br><br>~Stephen<br><br><div class="EC_EC_gmail_quote">On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 11:32 AM, Steve Slevinski <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:slevin@signpuddle.net">slevin@signpuddle.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><br><blockquote class="EC_EC_gmail_quote" style="padding-left:1ex"><br><br><br> <br><br><div><br>Hi Stephen,<br><br><br><br>The PocketPuddles are on my list. Currently, I'm finishing up the new<br>SignText. Then I'll be updating SignPuddle Online and the PocketPuddle<br>to use BSW and the new SignMaker and SignText. Then I have the<br>MediaWiki Plugin and the SignPuddle Reader to finish.<br><br><br><br>So the PocketPuddles could be ready maybe in September. Wish I was<br>better at estimates.<br><br><br><br>Regards,<br><br>-Steve<br><br><br><br>Stephen Jones wrote:<br><blockquote><div><div></div><div class="h5">Hello,<br><br> <br><br>I was wondering when is the new pocket puddle going to be available?<br><br> <br><br>~Stephen<br><br> </div></div><pre><hr size="4" width="90%"><div class="EC_EC_im"><br><br><br><br>____________________________________________<br><br>SW-L SignWriting List<br><br>Post Message<br><a href="mailto:SW-L@majordomo.valenciacc.edu">SW-L@majordomo.valenciacc.edu</a><br><br>List Archives and Help<br><a href="http://www.signwriting.org/forums/swlist/">http://www.signwriting.org/forums/swlist/</a><br><br>Change Email Settings<br><a href="http://majordomo.valenciacc.edu/mailman/listinfo/sw-l">http://majordomo.valenciacc.edu/mailman/listinfo/sw-l</a></div></pre><br></blockquote><br></div><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>____________________________________________<br><br><br><br>SW-L SignWriting List<br><br><br><br>Post Message<br><br><a href="mailto:SW-L@majordomo.valenciacc.edu">SW-L@majordomo.valenciacc.edu</a><br><br><br><br>List Archives and Help<br><br><a href="http://www.signwriting.org/forums/swlist/">http://www.signwriting.org/forums/swlist/</a><br><br><br><br>Change Email Settings<br><br><a href="http://majordomo.valenciacc.edu/mailman/listinfo/sw-l">http://majordomo.valenciacc.edu/mailman/listinfo/sw-l</a><br></blockquote></div><br><br><br><br>--Forwarded Message Attachment--<br>From: kjoanne403@signwriting.org<br>To: sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu<br>Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 21:55:03 -0600<br>Subject: Re: [sw-l] SignPuddle Brackets<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><div><font face="Arial" size="2">I'd love to be involved with the SW shorthand as <br>well; I have seen references to it on the site but I'd love to learn more about <br>how it works and help with the updates...</font></div><br><div><font face="Arial" size="2">KJ</font></div><br><blockquote style="padding-right:0px;padding-left:5px;margin-left:5px;border-left:#000000 2px solid;margin-right:0px"><br> <div style="font:10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </div><br> <div style="background:#e4e4e4;font:10pt arial;font-color:black"><b>From:</b> <br> <a title="swterp@gmail.com" href="mailto:swterp@gmail.com">Stephen Jones</a> <br> </div><br> <div style="font:10pt arial"><b>To:</b> <a title="sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu" href="mailto:sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu">SignWriting List</a> </div><br> <div style="font:10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, July 23, 2009 1:53 <br> PM</div><br> <div style="font:10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [sw-l] SignPuddle <br> Brackets</div><br> <div><br></div>Hi,<br><br>I understand how you are doing brackets if needed <br> now. Thanks for the tip!<br><br>I would be very interested in the shorthand <br> system and even working with you to update it if you have the time and want <br> someone else to help with it.<br><br>Both my wife and I are doing this project <br> for Grad school, but we also use SignWriting in our work as interpreters. We <br> have even taught an in house training for other interpreters interested in <br> writing Sign Languages. <br><br>~Stephen<br><br><br> <div class="EC_EC_gmail_quote">On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 2:23 PM, Valerie Sutton <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sutton@signwriting.org">sutton@signwriting.org</a>></span> <br> wrote:<br><br> <blockquote class="EC_EC_gmail_quote" style="padding-left:1ex;border-left:rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid"><br> <div class="EC_EC_im">SignWriting List<br>July 23, 2009<br><br></div>Hi Stephen <br> -<br>Thanks for this message...<br> <div class="EC_EC_im"><br><br>On Jul 23, 2009, at 10:26 AM, Stephen Jones wrote:<br><br> <blockquote class="EC_EC_gmail_quote" style="padding-left:1ex;border-left:rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid">I <br> have not been able to transfer everything we are getting to SignPuddle <br> yet. We do what are called elicitation sessions and have to write what we <br> elicit into a Data Notebook by hand during the session with the Language <br> Consultant. It is a requirement of the class to write it at the time we <br> "hear" it. So, I currently have not put sentences into sign puddle, but <br> they are all in my Data Note Book for Paraguay <br> Signs.<br></blockquote><br></div>What an interesting project! So you are <br> writing SignWriting by hand then...As you know, years ago, in the 1980's we <br> had a success with using our old SignWriting Shorthand system for classroom <br> notetaking in ASL, at CSUN for a Deaf student and it was an exciting time, <br> with new ideas being applied to real classroom settings....writing sign <br> language at speed of signing, and then re-writing the notes taken so <br> quickly, into more formal SignWriting for the student to be able to read at <br> home...then SignWriting evolved into expressive and vertical writing and the <br> Shorthand fell out of date, and it still has to be updated to match the way <br> we write today, but I am confident that we can someday start using the <br> Shorthand again as a form of daily personal handwriting, that might be <br> useful for your kind of work...<br><br>For those on the List that are new to <br> all this, there is a section on SignWriting Handwriting and Shorthand on the <br> web, in the lessons section:<br><br><a href="http://www.signwriting.org/lessons/cursive/">http://www.signwriting.org/lessons/cursive/</a><br> <div class="EC_EC_im"><br><br><br> <blockquote class="EC_EC_gmail_quote" style="padding-left:1ex;border-left:rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid"><br>I <br> am also teaching Sign Language Phonetics and this is where I was trying to <br> get the brackets. What I do is make the sentences in Sign Text then e-mail <br> them to myself without saving, because the sentences are from videos of <br> Thai sign, African sign, Spanish sign, etc. I also rely on the load signs <br> into sign text after e-mailing heavily if I need to change something. I <br> did not want to save all these in the ASL Puddle, so I just have not been <br> saving them. I also use Sign Puddle to make the dictation tests, which <br> just has about 7 random signs from various languages, so it is not really <br> a story or necessarily ASL and thus I do not save <br> them.<br></blockquote><br><br><br> <blockquote class="EC_EC_gmail_quote" style="padding-left:1ex;border-left:rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid">In <br> short I was trying to do the brackets in Sign <br> Text.<br></blockquote><br><br></div>Wow. Well, first I am glad to know you <br> are so skilled with computers and SignPuddle software...and that you know <br> SignText! Your work sounds fascinating ;-)<br><br>Regarding the use of <br> brackets, they do well in horizontal writing...that is where they really <br> originated. Then when we started writing vertically, they posed a bit of a <br> problem, but if we were doing a graphics file, like the attached one, where <br> I literally went into Photoshop and added the bracket in grey, then <br> obviously we could use the brackets going down in vertical columns...but <br> that was not using SignText.... 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