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SignWriting List<br>July 31, 2009<br><br>Hi Ingvild, Maria and everyone!<br><br>For those interested in using Adobe InDesign for designing and publishing large books written in SignWriting, I have created an inDesign Template for SW4 Format (four columns portrait).<br><br>I can email the SW4 Template to you privately, for those who request it...so write to me anytime...<br><br>Have a wonderful weekend everyone!<br><br>Val ;-)<br><br>---------------------<br><br><br><br><br><br>On Jul 31, 2009, at 6:04 AM, SignWriting wrote:<br><br>> SignWriting List<br>> July 31, 2009<br>> <br>> Hello Maria!<br>> Thank you for this message. I know you have been using DocumentMaker and I really appreciate that. I do too, for smaller documents...I love that little program and only wish we could add more features to it, which we will someday when we have funding...<br>> <br>> So meanwhile, I will be happy to teach you how to do the SignWriting Level 4
(SW4) document format in Adobe InDesign...and I think it will be valuable for everyone to have this explained in detail...and later we could create the same kind of template for other programs such as Microsoft Word and Quark Express.<br>> <br>> So first, Maria, do you own the Adobe InDesign program? If not, you will need to purchase it sooner or later. Right now you could download the free trial, but it will stop after one month (creates frustration at the end of the month! ;-))<br>> <br>> If you own the program, what version are you using?<br>> <br>> You can use CS2, CS3 or CS4 I believe and still use my template...but now that we are talking about it, I will test that to be sure, by downloading the free one-month trial of CS4 to make sure it opens the template I created in CS2...<br>> <br>> For information on getting the program, go to Adobe InDesign web page:<br>> <br>> Adobe InDesign<br><span>> <a target="_blank"
href="http://www.adobe.com/products/indesign/">http://www.adobe.com/products/indesign/</a></span><br>> <br>> I look forward to working with you!<br>> <br>> Val ;-)<br>> <br>> ---------<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> On Jul 31, 2009, at 4:42 AM, MARIA AZZOPARDI wrote:<br>> <br>>> Wow well done to everyone on the Gospel team! That's a lot of hard work.<br>>> <br>>> Valerie, I would love to learn how to use Adobe InDesign and I think it's<br>>> a must, since we work on long documents in signwriting.<br>>> <br>>> Many thanks,<br>>> Maria<br>>> <br>>>> Great. Big job. I too loved the Page Maker program, now I am using an old<br>>>> version of the InDesign, vesrion Cue CS2. That may be to old for me to use<br>>>> your template ...<br>>>> <br>>>> Ingvild<br>>>> <br>>>> <br>>>> <br>>>> <br>>>>>
From: <a ymailto="mailto:sutton@signwriting.org" href="mailto:sutton@signwriting.org">sutton@signwriting.org</a><br>>>>> To: <a ymailto="mailto:sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu" href="mailto:sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu">sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu</a><br>>>>> Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 14:23:55 -0700<br>>>>> CC: <a ymailto="mailto:romero@signwriting.org" href="mailto:romero@signwriting.org">romero@signwriting.org</a>; <a ymailto="mailto:cbatch@san.rr.com" href="mailto:cbatch@san.rr.com">cbatch@san.rr.com</a><br>>>>> Subject: [sw-l] Gospel John in ASL Chapter 1 in PDF format<br>>>>> <br>>>>> SignWriting List<br>>>>> July 30, 2009<br>>>>> <br>>>>> Hello SignWriting List!<br>>>>> I have been working on the book design and layout, for printing the 21<br>>>>> chapters of the Gospel According to John in American Sign
Language,<br>>>>> translated from the New Living Translation by Nancy Romero, edited by<br>>>>> ASL editor Lucinda O'Grady Batch (thank you Nancy & Cindy ;-)<br>>>>> <br>>>>> Since we decided to publish the Gospel of John in SignWriting Level 4,<br>>>>> which means four columns per page, in portrait style pages, I decided<br>>>>> to use a book-design program called Adobe InDesign for this very large<br>>>>> book preparation, since it may involve 500-600 pages when we are done,<br>>>>> and our DocumentMaker Pro program, no matter how much I love it, needs<br>>>>> to be improved from a software development perspective, and our non-<br>>>>> profit organization does not have the funds right now to invest in<br>>>>> improving DocumentMaker...someday we will!<br>>>>> <br>>>>> So instead, since I used
PageMaker years ago to prepare books, and<br>>>>> since PageMaker was purchased by Adobe, they made it possible for<br>>>>> PageMaker users to transfer all their old documents into Adobe<br>>>>> InDesign. I had hundreds of book-layout files in the old PageMaker so<br>>>>> I had a big job transferring all those old files into Adobe InDesign,<br>>>>> but over time I learned Adobe InDesign and I enjoy using the program...<br>>>>> <br>>>>> There are two programs used most for large book-layouts...Quark<br>>>>> Express and Adobe InDesign...and there are others that are terrific<br>>>>> for mathematical textbooks and so forth...so there is a big world out<br>>>>> there with so many software choices...I know lots of people use<br>>>>> Microsoft Word...I understand how to use Adobe InDesign better, and I<br>>>>> love
the way it makes PDF files, since Adobe is the developer of the<br>>>>> PDF format...they have the creation of PDF files built into the<br>>>>> program, which is a great help. It also coordinates well with Adobe<br>>>>> Photoshop and Adobe Illustrator, and Adobe Acrobat...<br>>>>> <br>>>>> So I have started the SignWriting 4-column layout for the 21 chapters<br>>>>> of the Gospel According to John in Adobe Indesign now ...I created a<br>>>>> template with a table for the four columns...giving the lines between<br>>>>> the columns a light grey color, and I established the exact Column<br>>>>> Height, width and so forth in SignPuddle ColumnMaker to match my<br>>>>> template in Adobe InDesign.<br>>>>> <br>>>>> So if there are any of you who also use Adobe InDesign, or would like<br>>>>> to learn, and
you would like to have a copy of the template I have<br>>>>> established for SignWriting Level 4 documents (4-column portrait<br>>>>> documents), please tell me and I will send you my template, with<br>>>>> instructions on how to coordinate with SignPuddle's ColumnMaker<br>>>>> features, which are just superb! (thank you, Steve! ;-)<br>>>>> <br>>>>> Here, attached, is a sample of the first chapter of the Gospel<br>>>>> According to John. I will add more chapters later....<br>>>>> <br>>>>> Hope you all have enjoyed your July!!<br>>>>> <br>>>>> Val ;-)<br>>>>> <br>>>>> See attached -<br>>>>> <br>>>> <br>>>> <br>>>> <br>>>> ____________________________________________<br>>>> <br>>>> SW-L SignWriting List<br>>>> <br>>>>
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