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Great Val, <br><br>thanks a lot - I too am mostly happy with the CS2 - I do not need anything more fancy<br><br>Ingvild
<br><br><br><br>> From: sutton@signwriting.org<br>> To: sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu<br>> Subject: Re: [sw-l] Gospel John in ASL Chapter 1 in PDF format<br>> Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 05:53:55 -0700<br>> <br>> SignWriting List<br>> July 31, 2009<br>> <br>> Hello Ingvild!<br>> Yes...I remember you used PageMaker and then Adobe InDesign. And I am <br>> using the same version you are...CS2. So my template should work for <br>> you if the document looks like a format you want to use...I will be <br>> happy to send it to you.<br>> <br>> To upgrade to CS4 costs $200, so I decided to save the money, and I am <br>> perfectly happy with CS2...it does for me, what I need, and now I am <br>> glad that we are using the same version too!<br>> <br>> Later I will probably upgrade, but meanwhile the template I created <br>> should work for CS2, CS3 and CS4...<br>> <br>> I really hope to improve DocumentMaker someday for larger <br>> documents, ...but that cannot be helped right now, and Adobe InDesign <br>> has other pluses, since it is a well-known program that lots of <br>> publishers use, you can hand the files to other publishers and they <br>> will be able to print from them easily.<br>> <br>> So in a few days I will post the template to the List....<br>> <br>> For those interested in Adobe InDesign, the program is not <br>> inexpensive, but worth the cost if you are doing a lot of big <br>> books...and there is a free one-month trial program for download online:<br>> <br>> Adobe InDesign<br>> http://www.adobe.com/products/indesign/<br>> <br>> Val ;-)<br>> <br>> -------<br>> <br>> <br>> On Jul 31, 2009, at 4:11 AM, Ingvild Roald wrote:<br>> <br>> > Great. Big job. I too loved the Page Maker program, now I am using <br>> > an old version of the InDesign, vesrion Cue CS2. That may be to old <br>> > for me to use your template ...<br>> ><br>> > Ingvild<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > > From: sutton@signwriting.org<br>> > > To: sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu<br>> > > Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 14:23:55 -0700<br>> > > CC: romero@signwriting.org; cbatch@san.rr.com<br>> > > Subject: [sw-l] Gospel John in ASL Chapter 1 in PDF format<br>> > ><br>> > > SignWriting List<br>> > > July 30, 2009<br>> > ><br>> > > Hello SignWriting List!<br>> > > I have been working on the book design and layout, for printing <br>> > the 21<br>> > > chapters of the Gospel According to John in American Sign Language,<br>> > > translated from the New Living Translation by Nancy Romero, edited <br>> > by<br>> > > ASL editor Lucinda O'Grady Batch (thank you Nancy & Cindy ;-)<br>> > ><br>> > > Since we decided to publish the Gospel of John in SignWriting <br>> > Level 4,<br>> > > which means four columns per page, in portrait style pages, I <br>> > decided<br>> > > to use a book-design program called Adobe InDesign for this very <br>> > large<br>> > > book preparation, since it may involve 500-600 pages when we are <br>> > done,<br>> > > and our DocumentMaker Pro program, no matter how much I love it, <br>> > needs<br>> > > to be improved from a software development perspective, and our non-<br>> > > profit organization does not have the funds right now to invest in<br>> > > improving DocumentMaker...someday we will!<br>> > ><br>> > > So instead, since I used PageMaker years ago to prepare books, and<br>> > > since PageMaker was purchased by Adobe, they made it possible for<br>> > > PageMaker users to transfer all their old documents into Adobe<br>> > > InDesign. I had hundreds of book-layout files in the old PageMaker <br>> > so<br>> > > I had a big job transferring all those old files into Adobe <br>> > InDesign,<br>> > > but over time I learned Adobe InDesign and I enjoy using the <br>> > program...<br>> > ><br>> > > There are two programs used most for large book-layouts...Quark<br>> > > Express and Adobe InDesign...and there are others that are terrific<br>> > > for mathematical textbooks and so forth...so there is a big world <br>> > out<br>> > > there with so many software choices...I know lots of people use<br>> > > Microsoft Word...I understand how to use Adobe InDesign better, <br>> > and I<br>> > > love the way it makes PDF files, since Adobe is the developer of the<br>> > > PDF format...they have the creation of PDF files built into the<br>> > > program, which is a great help. It also coordinates well with Adobe<br>> > > Photoshop and Adobe Illustrator, and Adobe Acrobat...<br>> > ><br>> > > So I have started the SignWriting 4-column layout for the 21 <br>> > chapters<br>> > > of the Gospel According to John in Adobe Indesign now ...I created a<br>> > > template with a table for the four columns...giving the lines <br>> > between<br>> > > the columns a light grey color, and I established the exact Column<br>> > > Height, width and so forth in SignPuddle ColumnMaker to match my<br>> > > template in Adobe InDesign.<br>> > ><br>> > > So if there are any of you who also use Adobe InDesign, or would <br>> > like<br>> > > to learn, and you would like to have a copy of the template I have<br>> > > established for SignWriting Level 4 documents (4-column portrait<br>> > > documents), please tell me and I will send you my template, with<br>> > > instructions on how to coordinate with SignPuddle's ColumnMaker<br>> > > features, which are just superb! (thank you, Steve! ;-)<br>> > ><br>> > > Here, attached, is a sample of the first chapter of the Gospel<br>> > > According to John. I will add more chapters later....<br>> > ><br>> > > Hope you all have enjoyed your July!!<br>> > ><br>> > > Val ;-)<br>> > ><br>> > > See attached -<br>> > ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > ____________________________________________<br>> ><br>> > SW-L SignWriting List<br>> ><br>> > Post Message<br>> > SW-L@majordomo.valenciacc.edu<br>> ><br>> > List Archives and Help<br>> > http://www.signwriting.org/forums/swlist/<br>> ><br>> > Change Email Settings<br>> > http://majordomo.valenciacc.edu/mailman/listinfo/sw-l<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> ____________________________________________<br>> <br>> SW-L SignWriting List<br>> <br>> Post Message<br>> SW-L@majordomo.valenciacc.edu<br>> <br>> List Archives and Help<br>> http://www.signwriting.org/forums/swlist/<br>> <br>> Change Email Settings<br>> http://majordomo.valenciacc.edu/mailman/listinfo/sw-l<br>> <br></body>
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