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Thank you, this may solve the problem as I see it. Even if the general public would never see these symbols, the would show up in the spelling of the sign, and therefore be avaylable to the researcher. Sorry I was aware of how much detail is already awailable this way ;)<br><br>Ingvild
<br><br><br><br>> From: sutton@signwriting.org<br>> To: sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu<br>> Subject: Re: [sw-l] more handshape orientations<br>> Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 11:45:00 -0700<br>> <br>> SignWriting List<br>> September 9, 2009<br>> <br>> On Sep 9, 2009, at 11:24 AM, Ingvild Roald wrote:<br>> > I agree that there could not be more shades in the ordinary <br>> > handshape symbol groups. But for research, maybe something extra <br>> > could be provided in the group 30, the one which is used for special <br>> > sorting needs etc.? I am thinking of simple lines or triangles <br>> > ('wedges') that could be added for this spesific purpose?<br>> > Ingvild<br>> <br>> Hello Ingvild!<br>> Great to hear from you, and thank you for this idea...I can see that <br>> has some possibilities for the future...<br>> <br>> It certainly could be possible in a future version of the ISWA. But <br>> the current symbolset that we have, the ISWA 2008, cannot be changed <br>> or added on to because it is already installed in SignPuddle...maybe <br>> in a few years we can talk about a new ISWA...<br>> <br>> In the ISWA 2008, Group 30 provides symbols for detailed location, and <br>> also depth in space, and height and width of signs, to give more <br>> details for looking up signs sorted by the symbols in <br>> SignWriting...sorted by the SSS (Sign-Symbol-Sequence). But we do not <br>> write with these detailed symbols in Group 30...we only sort with them <br>> when we have very large dictionaries where the details are helpful to <br>> determine which sign should come first and second in a group of signs <br>> in a dictionary. So Group 30 doesn't change the writing...only the <br>> sorting...<br>> <br>> I believe Honza wanted more detailed palm facing for writing? Or have <br>> I misunderstood, Honza?...If it is only for sorting later then I think <br>> Ingvild's idea could be done with a simple numeric 45 degree marker of <br>> some kind that the general public would never see...<br>> <br>> Here is an example of some of the detailed Location Symbols for the <br>> fingers and hand in Group 30 in ISWA 2008...see attached:<br>> <br></body>
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