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Hi Charles,<div>Just a little note:</div><div>I write dance writing being behind the dancer, or I become the dancer. Since the early ' 70-tees.</div><div>Have a great day</div><div><br></div><div>L.I.F.E.</div><div><br></div><div>Tini.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On 20-Oct-09, at 11:37 PM, Charles Butler wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0"><tbody><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;">For me, I learned receptive first, so it was literally "write what you see" when you are seeing someone else's hands. Then when they switched, I considered it an extension. I just teach "write what you see". Then receptive is for transcribing something brand new if you don't know the meaning, and then expressive when you have moved it to your own hands. Expressive has become the standard for the dictionaries and most usage. Dance writing is still, apparently, receptive. It took me hours to transcribe video tape because I think to write what someone else is doing, and then reverse it to my hands is the challenge.<div><br></div><div>Charles<br><br>--- On <b>Tue, 10/20/09, MARIA AZZOPARDI <i><<a href="mailto:maria.azzopardi@um.edu.mt">maria.azzopardi@um.edu.mt</a>></i></b> wrote:<br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"><br>From: MARIA AZZOPARDI <<a href="mailto:maria.azzopardi@um.edu.mt">maria.azzopardi@um.edu.mt</a>><br>Subject: [sw-l] receptive vs. expressive - history?<br>To: "SignWriting List" <<a href="mailto:sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu">sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu</a>><br>Date: Tuesday, October 20, 2009, 5:13 PM<br><br><div class="plainMail">Hi all,<br><br>I was wondering what to do with the receptive and expressive view points,<br>when teaching signwriting.<br><br>As teachers of signwriting, would you include this explanation - or would<br>presenting the two possibilities create a problem that might not be there.<br><br>I've found that when I explain how to signwrite the different orientations<br>I explain the 'expressive viewpt' and never include the receptive view, so<br>as not to 'teach' them something that I will later have to unteach.<br><br>do you find that explaining the expressive view and leaving out the<br>'receptive' writing, acceptable?<br><br>thanks<br>Maria<br><br><br><br><br>____________________________________________<br><br>SW-L SignWriting List<br><br>Post Message<br><a ymailto="mailto:SW-L@majordomo.valenciacc.edu" href="/mc/compose?to=SW-L@majordomo.valenciacc.edu">SW-L@majordomo.valenciacc.edu</a><br><br>List Archives and Help<br><a href="http://www.signwriting.org/forums/swlist/" target="_blank">http://www.signwriting.org/forums/swlist/</a><br><br>Change Email Settings<br><a href="http://majordomo.valenciacc.edu/mailman/listinfo/sw-l" target="_blank">http://majordomo.valenciacc.edu/mailman/listinfo/sw-l</a><br><br></div></blockquote></div></td></tr></tbody></table><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">____________________________________________</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">SW-L SignWriting List</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Post Message</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><a href="mailto:SW-L@majordomo.valenciacc.edu">SW-L@majordomo.valenciacc.edu</a></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">List Archives and Help</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><a href="http://www.signwriting.org/forums/swlist/">http://www.signwriting.org/forums/swlist/</a></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Change Email Settings</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><a href="http://majordomo.valenciacc.edu/mailman/listinfo/sw-l">http://majordomo.valenciacc.edu/mailman/listinfo/sw-l</a></div> </blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>