<html><head><style type="text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style></head><body><div style="font-family:'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div>Hmm. I don't know the sign in production, but at least one variant I have seen (look at mine with the bird and full sweep from Signing Savvy) actually does move forward and back. I should have a change in palm facing but I'm away from the editor. </div><div><br></div><div>I have not seen the sign in Cecilia Flood's sign in video, so I'm not sure. Adam what do you think?</div><div><br></div><div><span><a target="_blank" href="http://www.signingsavvy.com/sign/PEACOCK">http://www.signingsavvy.com/sign/PEACOCK</a></span></div><div><br></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times; font-size: medium; border-collapse: collapse; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; "><table cellpadding="5"
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times, serif;font-size:12pt"><br><div style="font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><hr size="1"><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> Ingvild Roald <iroald@hotmail.com><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Mon, November 16, 2009 8:14:28 AM<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> RE: [sw-l] Understanding a sign<br></font><br>
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Exept, of course, that Adam's is so easily readable that if you know it is supposed to be the sign for 'peacock', you may not even notice that the arrow is written single-stemmed when it should have been double-stemmed - sorry all<br><br>Ingvild <br><br><br> <br>
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From: iroald@hotmail.com<br>To: sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu<br>Subject: RE: [sw-l] Understanding a sign<br>Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:08:12 +0100<br><br>
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Agreed - Adam's is easy to read, while you would have to think for a while (and change the palm facing) to read the original one<br><br>Ingvild <br><br><br> <br>
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From: kjoanne403@signwriting.org<br>To: sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu<br>Subject: Re: [sw-l] Understanding a sign<br>Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 18:20:59 -0700<br><br>
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<div><font size="2" face="Arial">Not doable at all, as far as I can see... the palm facing of the fist is just wrong. But I prefer Adam's writing, myself.</font></div>
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<div style="FONT:10pt arial;BACKGROUND:#e4e4e4;"><b>From:</b> <a rel="nofollow" title="chazzer3332000@yahoo.com" ymailto="mailto:chazzer3332000@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:chazzer3332000@yahoo.com">Charles Butler</a> </div>
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<div style="FONT:10pt arial;"><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, November 15, 2009 3:14 PM</div>
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<div>Now that is clear. I guess we need that variant in the SignPuddle now as the first one is simply not easily doable.<br><br>Charles<br><br></div>
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<b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT:bold;">From:</span></b> Adam Frost <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:icemandeaf@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:icemandeaf@gmail.com">icemandeaf@gmail.com</a>><br><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT:bold;">To:</span></b> SignWriting List <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu" target="_blank" href="mailto:sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu">sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu</a>><br><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Sun, November 15, 2009 5:03:54 PM<br><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT:bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [sw-l] Understanding a sign<br></font><br><span class="ecxecxApple-style-span">I would write it like this.</span>
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<div><font size="-1"></font><br class="ecxecxwebkit-block-placeholder"></div><font size="-1">Sign: <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.signbank.org/SignPuddle1.5/spreader.html?bsw=00805e18f926f8c31ce7f931f8b16340f926f8b0ad20f91bf8a6">Reader</a><br>Source: Adam Frost</font><br></td></tr></tbody></table>
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<div>On Nov 15, 2009, at 1:58 PM, Charles Butler wrote:</div><br class="ecxecxApple-interchange-newline">
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<div style="FONT-FAMILY:'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif;FONT-SIZE:12pt;"><br>I'm trying to understand this sign. I'm not sure where the surfaces are; and I don't seem to be able to duplicate this sign.<br><br>Charles Butler<br>
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