Val mentioned that it would be nice to move on to inspiring stories about SSW. I'd second that! I started the "common criticisms" thread because I'm interested in the ways that dominant language ideologies in the US (and in other places) affect the reception of SSW. But more than that I'm interested in the ways that SSW overcomes those challenges, and helps create new ways of thinking about language and writing. So I'd love to hear more about that as well!<br>
Best,<br>Erika<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 11:13 AM, <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sw-l-request@majordomo.valenciacc.edu">sw-l-request@majordomo.valenciacc.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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1. Re: common criticisms of signwriting? (Valerie Sutton)<br>
2. Need Feedback for PersonalPuddle Software, version 1.3<br>
(Valerie Sutton)<br>
<br><br>---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>From: "Valerie Sutton" <<a href="mailto:sutton@signwriting.org">sutton@signwriting.org</a>><br>To: "SignWriting List" <<a href="mailto:sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu">sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu</a>><br>
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 08:20:30 -0800<br>Subject: Re: [sw-l] common criticisms of signwriting?<br>SignWriting List<br>
November 24, 2009<br>
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On Nov 24, 2009, at 4:41 AM, Trevor Jenkins wrote:<br>
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Our post Post-Modern society could well see a total decline in textuality; we've already seen the reduction of much intelligent discourse in politics, etc as Postman suggested.Pessemistic I know but I fear this result is the conclusion. How this will affect D/deaf people with their general literacy skills and their specific need of sign language notations remains to be seen. I am not hopeful.<br>
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Hi Trevor -<br>
I am just the opposite....very optimistic!<br>
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The thing to realize is that trends change. Every other generation, it seems, Deaf children are born into a different world in the deaf education trends...first schools are oral, then they move to manualism, then they move back to oralism, then they move back to sign language education...it seems to fluctuate frequently...but throughout... Deaf people are resilient and survive and move forward with their lives....and each time the trend changes, some things are different than before, and there are subtle improvements, even though it may be hard to see those improvements...<br>
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In other words, it is true that reading and writing and even intelligent discourse is all changing...texting is not the same as writing a book on an old typewriter from the 1920's, but people are still intelligent and invent new ways to feel fulfilled and to grow...<br>
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So do not dispair...the most important thing is to remain optimistic and choose to find new avenues for communication...that is why I work with SignWriting and I do not throw out the visual nature of the writing system, just because it does not fit the norms of computer programs today...because sign languages are visual in nature, and to lose capturing the language as it really is would be a shame...That is why I feel we need to work towards new goals that will expand our computing and thinking in new ways...<br>
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Anyway...I hope we can move on now, to a new thread as well... How about a new thread: "Common Inspiring Stories from SignWriting users"....<br>
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Here is an inspiring story:<br>
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One thing I am working on today is to create the Group 7 Handshape pages...for Adam's animated GIFs...as you know, Adam has been working on a big project, while he goes to school full time at CSUN...<br>
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Here are Adam's animated GIFs to date...but tonight I hope to post Group 7...Yeah! Thank you, Adam, for this wonderful work...<br>
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Lessons in ISWA Symbols<br>
<a href="http://www.signwriting.org/lessons/iswa/" target="_blank">http://www.signwriting.org/lessons/iswa/</a><br>
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As soon as we have Groups 1-10 in animated GIFs, I am going to co-author a book with Adam called "SignWriting Hand Symbols"...that uses Adam's photos to show each handshape in 6 palm facings...so all the hands of the ISWA will be documented...on the web, and in book form...and I am thinking we could also create short videos for YouTube too...using the animated GIFs...a great way to teach SignWriting...<br>
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THANK YOU, Adam!<br>
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And thanks to you too Trevor, and to all of you, for continuing to be interested and to use SignWriting...Do you have any inspiring stories to share?<br>
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Val ;-)<br>
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Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 08:33:33 -0800<br>Subject: [sw-l] Need Feedback for PersonalPuddle Software, version 1.3<br><div style=""><div>SignWriting List</div><div>November 24, 2009</div><div><br></div><div>PersonalPuddle users...For those who used the PersonalPuddle or PocketPuddle before, and then I sent you the upgrade to the new PersonalPuddle version 1.3...</div>
<div><br></div><div>I need feedback from you...Were you able to install the new version? Have you had success using it?</div><div><br></div><div>Anny, Stefan and Jonathan have given me excellent feedback already - thank you for that...</div>
<div><br></div><div>Before I place the PersonalPuddle and PocketPuddle on Amazon.com, I want to update the user manuals and make sure the documentation will work for new users too...so your feedback will really help me write better backup materials...</div>
<div><br></div><div>So write here to the List with your questions, problems, good experiences too...Whatever I should know for creating a better product...</div><div><br></div><div>Many thanks!</div><div><br></div><div>Val ;-)</div>
<div><br></div><div>---------------</div><div><br></div><br><div><div>On Nov 14, 2009, at 1:04 PM, Valerie Sutton wrote:</div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div><font color="#000000"><br></font></div><div>A New Version of The PersonalPuddle</div>
<div><br></div><div><br></div></div></blockquote><a href="http://www.suttonshop.com/ecommerce/pages/products_sw_detail.jsp?id=60.0" target="_blank">PersonalPuddle version 1.3</a><blockquote type="cite"><div><div>SignPuddle desktop software for personal computers...</div>
<div><br></div><div><br></div></div></blockquote><a href="http://www.suttonshop.com/ecommerce/pages/products_sw_detail.jsp?id=60.0" target="_blank"><img src="" height="352" width="458"></a><blockquote type="cite"><div><div>
<div><br></div><div>For Mac OS X 10.4 and later...</div><div>For Windows 95 and later...</div><div><br></div><div>With the PersonalPuddle you can:</div><div>1. Work in SignPuddle without an internet connection.</div><div>
2. Connect to SignPuddle Online, if you have an internet connection.</div><div>3. Move back and forth between SignPuddle Online and your PersonalPuddle.</div><div>4. Import files from SignPuddle Online into your PersonalPuddle.</div>
<div>5. Copy signs and documets from your PersonalPuddle to SignPuddle Online.</div><div>6. Import User Interfaces in different languages.</div><div>7. Receive software updates and technical support.</div><div>8. Download from a link online, and also receive a CD by postal mail.</div>
<div><br></div><div>PersonalPuddle users can upgrade for free. Contact me privately at: <a href="mailto:sutton@signwriting.org" target="_blank">sutton@signwriting.org</a></div></div><div><br></div><div>For those who have never used the PersonalPuddle before, you can read about it and order it online:</div>
<div><br></div><div><br></div></div></blockquote><a href="http://www.suttonshop.com/ecommerce/pages/products_sw_detail.jsp?id=60.0" target="_blank">The PersonalPuddle</a><blockquote type="cite"><div><div><br></div></div></blockquote>
<a href="http://www.suttonshop.com/ecommerce/pages/products_sw_detail.jsp?id=60.0" target="_blank">http://www.suttonshop.com/ecommerce/pages/products_sw_detail.jsp?id=60.0</a><blockquote type="cite"><div><div><br></div><div>
-------</div><div><br></div><div>Many thanks to Steve Slevinski for this amazing new version of the PersonalPuddle, which I love...I use it everyday...I love the interconnectivity between the PersonalPuddle on your private computer and SignPuddle Online...a productive way to work...and practical too...your files are saved on your desktop, but you can add them anytime to SignPuddle Online...perfect for those who do not have reliable access to the internet...</div>
<div><br></div><div>Once again we are blessed... just in time for Thanksgiving!</div><div><br></div><div>Val ;-)</div></div></blockquote></div></div><br>____________________________________________<br>
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