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Hi Maria,<br>
What was your starting point to write the dissertations? LESHO has
similarities with ASL and also other Central americal sign languages
like LESCO(LEguaje de Señas COstaricense) from Costa Rica.<br>
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Are you dissertations available in English?<br>
<br>
Jonathan<br>
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On 09/01/2010 6:23 AM, MARIA AZZOPARDI wrote:
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<pre wrap="">Hi Jonathan-
Yes! it's what I'm doing right now for Maltese Sign Language. We have no
published works on the grammatical rules of LSM (only two dissertations
-that I carried out - and of course I couldn't describe the whole
grammatical system).
In fact the reason why it would be good to have BSL grammatical rules in
signwriting, is that for BSL they have many published works on
grammatical rules (e.g Sutton-Spence and Bencie Woll'The Linguistics of
BSL' just to mention one) - BUT not in signwriting - Having BSL rules in
signwriting would be of great use to us, since the two sign languages are
so close - having the same writing system i.e. signwriting, would make
cross-linguistic study so much easier!
Maria
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<pre wrap="">I would love to write some grammar rules for SignWriting BSL: that sort
of thing would help people to write with more confidence, I think, but I
don't really feel qualified.
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<pre wrap="">Hi everybody,
I am enjoying your posts very much. I feel the need to start
investigating more about Honduran Sign Language (LESHO) grammar. I
asked at the Deaf association and it seems that nobody has studied LESHO
grammar yet. When we get to writing full articles in LESHO it will be
important include the gramatical non-manual markers in the writing too.
Have any of you had any experience analyzing a sign language whose
grammatical rules haven't been published yet?
Jonathan
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On Thu, 2010-01-07 at 22:20 +0000, Trevor Jenkins wrote:
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<pre wrap="">Hi Shane,
Interesting. I'd put that BSL time marker earlier. Something like
PAST FOOD COOK (hold with aspect) FINISHED.
On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 5:05 PM, Shane Gilchrist
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href="mailto:shane.gilchrist.oheorpa@gmail.com"><shane.gilchrist.oheorpa@gmail.com></a> wrote:
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<pre wrap="">Dear Gan,
we dont really have past tenses in the same sense as the English
language - for instance, in BSL (using glosses - sorry!)
I made food:
- FOOD COOK^nodding
- FOOD COOK PAST
- FOOD COOK FINISHED!
non-manual features are very important here.
Shane
2010/1/6 Gan Lu<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:glu@uclan.ac.uk"><glu@uclan.ac.uk></a>:
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<pre wrap="">Hi Charles;
Thanks for the comment. So do you reckon the past tense is
necessary here? And if we use "create". should it be 'Created'
then?
Thanks
Gan
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<pre wrap="">"Charles Butler"<a
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<pre wrap="">Hmm. In context the sign, I would think would be either "make" or
"create". The tense is carried by the situation.
create
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Subject: [sw-l] question for the way to express 'made'
Dear Adam and Valerie;
I'm implementing the system now. While I have a question:
why can't we use an ASL gesture to express the meaning of 'made'
on the first page of the 'Frosty the Snow Man', other than using
the FingerSpellings to sign these four letters respectively?
I suppose the reason is because the word 'made' is a past tense,
and there is no ASL for it.
The reason I'm asking is my intention is to implement the first
page as a 4-by-4 output pattern, which are 16 sign-boxes in total
includes those punctuations. So I'm looking for a way to squeeze
the word 'made' into a box.
Thanks
Gan
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