Dear all<div><br></div><div>Thank you so much for the reply, it is very helpful..I am with the avatar group from South Africa.</div><div><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 5:26 AM, Jonathan <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:duncanjonathan@yahoo.ca">duncanjonathan@yahoo.ca</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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Hi Kate,<br>
I am the programmer of SignWriter Studio a SignWriting program
which is currently in Beta. I had contemplated extending my program to
export an avatar script and came to the conclusion that there exists
the following challenges to use SignWriting to control an Avatar.<br>
<ul>
<li>SignWriting was created for people to read and therefore does not
include information in the script explicitly as to what symbol contacts
what other symbol. What symbol is a right or left hand, which one
starts the movement and which ends the movement. SignWriter Studio
records whether the symbol was written as a right hand or a left hand
making avatar analysis much easier and taking some of the guess work
out.<br>
</li>
<li>For compound signs, there is no easy way for a program to tell
each sign apart to do them one after another because they are all
written in the same signbox space. I have addressed this problem in
SignWriter Studio with Frames. Frames are a list of signbox elements
each one with a sign of the compound sign, thus separating the signs so
that programs can better analyze each individual sign and not be as
confused as to which right hand goes with which movement and position
symbols.<br>
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<li>More timing information is needed to make an Avatar move smoothly.</li>
</ul>
I feel SignWriting is the right place to start for writing gestures for
an avatar but more symbol order, linking and timing information would
be required to make an avatar move correctly. What Val explained to
you should be a good starting point for you to read and understand
SignWriting so that you can extend the symbols with the additional
information you will require to make your avatar work.<br>
<br>
Jonathan<div class="im"><br>
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On 06/02/2010 6:13 PM, Kate Mc Nulty wrote:
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<p style="margin:0px;font-family:Tahoma;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:normal">Dear
Val</p>
<p style="margin:0px;font-family:Tahoma;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:normal"><br>
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<p style="margin:0px;font-family:Tahoma;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:normal">I'm
currently working on a project thats converts sign language that is
written in SignWriting to sign language gestures using an avatar. </p>
<p style="margin:0px;font-family:Tahoma;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:normal">I
am using the SWML as input to my system.</p>
<p style="margin:0px;font-family:Tahoma;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:normal">My
question is that in a case whereby a sign is composed of multiple hand
symbols, contact and movement symbols, How do I determine which hand
symbols are signed first and what follows thereafter..</p>
<p style="margin:0px;font-family:Tahoma;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:normal">I've
attached 3 examples of the above mentioned problem</p>
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<p style="margin:0px;font-family:Tahoma;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:normal">Also,
in a sign that contains touch and movement symbol..</p>
<p style="margin:0px;font-family:Tahoma;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:normal">How
can I determine whether touch and move..or move and touch</p>
<p style="margin:0px;font-family:Tahoma;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:normal"><br>
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<p style="margin:0px;font-family:Tahoma;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:normal">Thanks</p>
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<p style="margin:0px;font-family:Tahoma;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:normal">Kate</p>
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