<html><head><style type="text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style></head><body><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt">I rewrote it, check the later entry. The sign now goes forward. Hard to write it as I couldn't drag the sign forward and make it look right.<br><br>Charles<br><br><div><br></div><div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><br><div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;"><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><hr size="1"><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> Adam Frost <icemandeaf@gmail.com><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> SignWriting List <sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Sun, February 7, 2010 8:04:46 PM<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [sw-l] Writing of the sign "To Experience Thoroughly"<br></font><br>
<div><span class="Apple-style-span" style=""><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="">Basically the same that I wrote except I am reading the down single stem as a backwards movement. The final movement is one that moves forward away from the signer. Maybe I should do a video of myself. Tell me if this is a good video. I took it from my phone. </span><br></div><div><br></div><div>Adam</div><div><br></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style=""><img src="cid:1.3083008879@web58801.mail.re1.yahoo.com" id="DF1757BE-E236-406A-9848-84817E9F5956" width="73" height="57"></span> <br><br>On Feb 7, 2010, at 4:50 PM, "Charles Butler" <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:chazzer3332000@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:chazzer3332000@yahoo.com"></a><a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:chazzer3332000@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:chazzer3332000@yahoo.com">chazzer3332000@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote
type="cite"><div><div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><div><br><table border="1" cellpadding="5"><tbody><tr><td><img src="http://www.signbank.org/SignPuddle1.5/image.php?build=03-03-010-01-01-01,86,50,01-05-001-01-02-01,123,51,01-05-001-01-05-13,156,51,02-03-001-02-01-05,127,86,02-05-001-02-01-05,159,85,02-01-013-01-01-01,140,87,02-01-013-01-01-01,169,86,"><p><b>experience-thoroughly</b></p></td><td><p>to savor an experience.</p></td><td><table border="1" cellpadding="5"><tbody><tr><td align="middle"><img src="http://www.signbank.org/SignPuddle1.5/symbol.php?sss=03-03-010-01-01-01&color=999999&size=.7"></td></tr><tr><td align="middle"><img src="http://www.signbank.org/SignPuddle1.5/symbol.php?sss=01-05-001-01-02-01&color=999999&size=.7"></td></tr><tr><td align="middle"><img src="http://www.signbank.org/SignPuddle1.5/symbol.php?sss=02-03-001-02-01-05&color=999999&size=.7"></td></tr><tr><td
align="middle"><img src="http://www.signbank.org/SignPuddle1.5/symbol.php?sss=02-01-013-01-01-01&color=999999&size=.7"></td></tr><tr><td align="middle"><img src="http://www.signbank.org/SignPuddle1.5/symbol.php?sss=01-05-001-01-05-13&color=999999&size=.7"></td></tr><tr><td align="middle"><img src="http://www.signbank.org/SignPuddle1.5/symbol.php?sss=02-05-001-02-01-05&color=999999&size=.7"></td></tr><tr><td align="middle"><img src="http://www.signbank.org/SignPuddle1.5/symbol.php?sss=02-01-013-01-01-01&color=999999&size=.7"></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table><p><font size="-1">Sign in BSW: <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.signbank.org/swis/glyphogram.php?bsw=0080d600f8d5f8b11cd0f8faf8b21d0cf91bf8b26d04f8fef8d58324f91ef8d46340f90bf8d66340f928f8d50081d6001cd06d0463401d0c83246340"
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href="http://www.signbank.org/swis/iswa/index.html?utf=%F1%80%82%80%F1%8D%98%80%F1%8F%A3%95%F1%8F%A2%B1%F1%81%B3%90%F1%8F%A3%BA%F1%8F%A2%B2%F1%81%B4%8C%F1%8F%A4%9B%F1%8F%A2%B2%F1%86%B4%84%F1%8F%A3%BE%F1%8F%A3%95%F1%88%8C%A4%F1%8F%A4%9E%F1%8F%A3%94%F1%86%8D%80%F1%8F%A4%8B%F1%8F%A3%96%F1%86%8D%80%F1%8F%A4%A8%F1%8F%A3%95%F1%80%82%81%F1%8D%98%80%F1%81%B3%90%F1%86%B4%84%F1%86%8D%80%F1%81%B4%8C%F1%88%8C%A4%F1%86%8D%80" title="">Analyze</a><br>Source: Adam Frost & Charles Butler<br>Modified: February 07, 2010 16:46<br>Puddle page 10667</font></p><p><br></p><p><font size="-1">How's this? <br></font></p></div><div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><br><div style="font-family: 'times new roman','new york',times,serif; font-size: 12pt;"><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><hr size="1"><b><span style="font-weight:
bold;">From:</span></b> Charles Butler <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:chazzer3332000@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:chazzer3332000@yahoo.com"></a><a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:chazzer3332000@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:chazzer3332000@yahoo.com">chazzer3332000@yahoo.com</a>><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> SignWriting List <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu" target="_blank" href="mailto:sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu"></a><a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu" target="_blank" href="mailto:sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu">sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu</a>><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Sun, February 7, 2010 7:28:53 PM<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [sw-l] Writing of the sign "To Experience Thoroughly"<br></font><br><div style="font-family:
arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><div>Then it is edge on, not palm toward the reader, but toward the cheek.<br><br>Charles<br><br></div><div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><br><div style="font-family: 'times new roman','new york',times,serif; font-size: 12pt;"><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><hr size="1"><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> Adam Frost <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:icemandeaf@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:icemandeaf@gmail.com"></a><a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:icemandeaf@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:icemandeaf@gmail.com">icemandeaf@gmail.com</a>><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> SignWriting List <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu" target="_blank" href="mailto:sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu"></a><a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu" target="_blank"
href="mailto:sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu">sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu</a>><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Sun, February 7, 2010 5:26:02 PM<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [sw-l] Writing of the sign "To Experience Thoroughly"<br></font><br><div>Imagine doing a one handed "calendar" on your cheek instead of on your other hand as the base. There is no movement going back, but a down and then an out forward movement. I hope this helps. </div><div><br></div><div>Adam<br><br>On Feb 7, 2010, at 2:00 PM, "Charles Butler" <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:chazzer3332000@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:chazzer3332000@yahoo.com"></a><a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:chazzer3332000@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:chazzer3332000@yahoo.com"></a><a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:chazzer3332000@yahoo.com" target="_blank"
href="mailto:chazzer3332000@yahoo.com">chazzer3332000@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">Query on sign "experience thoroughly" since I don't have a video of the sign, is the hand coming straight back (which would mean under the chin to get a palm up, or is it rubbing the face straight back, which would make it half/half to the side of the face. <br><br>"Experience" I think of as straight up and down, with the palm facing the side of the face, if you are pushing the hand back I'm trying to understand what is happening to your wrist as trying to push my hand palm up toward me seems awkward.<br><br>Charles<br><br><div><br></div><div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><br><div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><hr size="1"><b><span
style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> Adam Frost <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:icemandeaf@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:icemandeaf@gmail.com"></a><a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:icemandeaf@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:icemandeaf@gmail.com"></a><a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:icemandeaf@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:icemandeaf@gmail.com">icemandeaf@gmail.com</a>><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> SignWriting List <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu" target="_blank" href="mailto:sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu"></a><a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu" target="_blank" href="mailto:sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu"></a><a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu" target="_blank" href="mailto:sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu">sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu</a>><br><b><span style="font-weight:
bold;">Sent:</span></b> Sun, February 7, 2010 3:43:04 PM<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [sw-l] Writing of the sign "To Experience Thoroughly"<br></font><br>It stays on the surface, so it would be a rub. I guess my only concern was if it reads well. If you say it does, then I guess it is fine and answers my question.<br><br>Adam<br><br>On Feb 7, 2010, at 12:34 PM, SignWriting <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:signwriting@mac.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:signwriting@mac.com"></a><a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:signwriting@mac.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:signwriting@mac.com"></a><a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:signwriting@mac.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:signwriting@mac.com"></a><a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:signwriting@mac.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:signwriting@mac.com">signwriting@mac.com</a>> wrote:<br><br>> Adam -<br>> I like this writing...it is easy to read I
think...except is it really RUB? Doesn't it BRUSH off the surface a little bit?<br>> <br>> I do not know how else to write this and it is accurate...the palm facing and finger direction are clear...<br>> <br>> <to experience thoroughly.png><br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> On Feb 7, 2010, at 12:19 PM, Adam Frost wrote:<br>> <br>>> Yes, it is a great time to have the PersonalPuddle for times like these. I am glad i have one. ;-)<br>>> <br>>> I was thinking about doing the hinge hand, but I decided against it because the sign doesn't feel like it has a hinge hand. I could try that and see how it looks.<br>>> <br>>> As for the heel, I am not exactly sure what you are trying to explain.<br>>> <br>>> Another thing that struck me as odd when writing this sign is that I couldn't get a crossing feel to the reading to match
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