Hi Val...<div><br></div><div>Val has explained the project correctly.</div><div><br></div><div>My part of the project, an avatar interprets SignWriting into sign language gestures.</div><div>Given the graphical nature of SignWriting, SWML was ideal to parse in a computer.</div>
<div><br></div><div>The SWML is provided as input to the avatar, the avatar then analyzes the input(SWML) and renders the animation.</div><div><br></div><div><span style="font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse">To create documents in SignWriting,<span style="border-collapse:separate;font-family:arial;font-size:small"> I'm using SignText (offline) downloaded at <span style="font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse"><a href="http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle/SignText.zip" style="color:rgb(42, 93, 176)" target="_blank">http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle/SignText.zip</a></span></span></span></div>
<div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><span style="border-collapse:collapse"><br></span></font></div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><span style="border-collapse:collapse">Currently, the avatar is able to render very simple animation. see attached.</span></font></div>
<div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><span style="border-collapse:collapse"><br></span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;">I've asked this questioned before, and my solution is working partially</span></font></div>
<div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><span style="border-collapse:collapse">The main problem right now is, the signing sequence in complex signs.</span></font></div>
<div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><span style="border-collapse:collapse">In attached file (sign2.tiff), these signs are the same.</span></font></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; border-collapse: collapse; ">I'm using the arrow to create a signing sequence, by this I mean which symbol to sign first and so on.</span></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;">The symbols below the stem of the line first, follow by the arrow and the symbols above the arrow head last.</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;">I'm using the x,y coordinates provided by SWML to determine the position of the symbols.</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;"><br></span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;">In the attached file sign2.jpg, sign marked with a tick, the touch symbol is above the below the arrow head.</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;">This sign is animated correctly, hand touches head and the moves forward</span></font></div><div>
<font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;">In the second sign (marked with a cross) the touch symbol is above the arrow head.</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;">The hand moves forward and then touches the head.</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;"><br>
</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;">SWML is very limited as Steve has mentioned.</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;">Steve wrote "SWML allows sorting symbols to be used in sign's spelling, when sorting symbols should only be used in the SignSpelling Sequence"</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;">I'm not sure what he means by that.</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;"><br>
</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;">Where is the new BSW work?</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;"><br>
</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;">Regards</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;">Kate</span></font></div>
<div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><span style="border-collapse:collapse"> </span></font></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 12:42 AM, Steve Slevinski <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:slevin@signpuddle.net" target="_blank">slevin@signpuddle.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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Hi Val,<br>
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For avatar programs, I think the SignSpelling Sequence would be
invaluable for animation. In a sense, the sequence for a sign is a
time oriented listing of the symbols in the spelling. <br>
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The new BSW data format includes the SignSpelling Sequence as part of
the data. Definitely useful.<br>
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-Steve</font><div><div></div><div><br>
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Hi Steve and Kate and everyone -
I have been meaning to tell everyone about the amazing project that is happening in South Africa. Kate's professor wrote to me to tell me a little about it...
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<pre>I head up a project that is producing technologies needed to perform English to South African Sign Language and SASL to English translation. We are currently focussing on the recognition and rendering of signed gestures. More information about the project can be viewed at <a href="http://www.coe.uwc.ac.za/index.php/SASL.html" target="_blank">http://www.coe.uwc.ac.za/index.php/SASL.html</a>.
Last year we developed a prototype digital phrase book to demonstrate some of the tools that we have developed. More information about the prototype can be viewed at <a href="http://www.cs.uwc.ac.za/~mghazi/iSign/" target="_blank">http://www.cs.uwc.ac.za/~mghazi/iSign/</a>. With a video overview of the project <a href="http://www.cs.uwc.ac.za/~mghazi/iSign/iSign%20Video.mp4....cut...All" target="_blank">http://www.cs.uwc.ac.za/~mghazi/iSign/iSign%20Video.mp4....cut...All</a> Email originating from UWC is covered by disclaimer <a href="http://www.uwc.ac.za/portal" target="_blank">http://www.uwc.ac.za/portal</a>
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<pre>So if you follow those links you can see a little about the project...
I believe that Kate is working on converting sign language that is written in SignWriting to gestures using an avatar that has been developed as a part of the above project, and James Connan, the project leader, asked for our help...
If I have not explained your project correctly, Kate, feel free to correct me and tell us more about it...
We are very happy to help -
But I have a question for Steve...could the new Binary SignWriting or other new developments be used for avatar programming rather than SWML, when SignPuddle 2.0 is established later?
Val ;-)
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If I can ask, what are you trying to do with SWML?
SWML has a couple of limitations. SWML doesn't include the SignSpelling Sequence. SWML doesn't force punctuation to be used alone and in the middle lane. SWML allows sorting symbols to be used in a sign's spelling, when sorting symbols should only be used in the SignSpelling Sequence.
Regards,
-Steve
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