<html><head><style type="text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style></head><body><div style="font-family:tahoma,new york,times,serif;font-size:10pt"><div>I was going to say something along these lines, but Ingvild said it perfectly!<br><br>cherie<br></div><div style="font-family: tahoma,new york,times,serif; font-size: 10pt;"><br><div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;"><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><hr size="1"><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> Ingvild Roald <iroald@hotmail.com><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Wed, March 24, 2010 6:26:02 AM<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> RE: [sw-l] embedding ASL in pdf/html<br></font><br>
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My feeling too - it is dangerous ground. But if it made clear that:<br><br>1) ASL and other sign languages are real languages, used by real people<br>2) as real languages, they have their own grammar<br>3) that what is used in your game is individual signs borrowed from ASL, and not the real ASL language<br>4) that learning the signs of ASL is not learning ASL<br>5) that knowing ASL signs may ease communication with ASL signers, if you are aware of the limitations mentioned above.<br><br>If this is not made very clear in the use of the signs, I fully understand how this make give a feeling of being 'raped' . Deaf people have been through so many hard times trying to make other understand, that they are often quite a bit sensitive to this issue. At the same time, when showing with humilty and respect, a person who uses signs haltingly is usually made to feel welcome in a signing setting. At least, this is my experience<br><br>Ingvild
(Norway, non-Deaf)<br><br><br><br>> From: icemandeaf@gmail.com<br>> To: sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu<br>> Subject: Re: [sw-l] embedding ASL in pdf/html<br>> Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 11:32:19 -0700<br>> <br>> That's exactly what he meant. It is something that has to be treaded <br>> carefully because it has happened too many times where that exact fear <br>> has happened. That is why so many Deaf people are so protective.<br>> <br>> Adam<br>> <br>> On Mar 23, 2010, at 11:15 AM, Valerie Sutton wrote:<br>> <br>> > So I am trying to imagine what the Deaf person meant by saying that <br>> > to you...I would assume there is a possible fear, that hearing <br>> > people will use Deaf people's native language, ASL, which is a true <br>> > language, just for games, and not understand its importance in <br>> > society .... do you think that was what he meant?<br>> ><br>> >
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