<html><head><style type="text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style></head><body><div style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12pt"><div>I don't know BSL, these two were the signs that were given, which is straight off the two-handed alphabet. I am not fluent in BSL and don't have access to BSL tapes.</div><div><br></div><div style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12pt"><br><div style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:13px"><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><hr size="1"><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> Kimberley Shaw <skifoot@GMAIL.COM><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACC.EDU<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Tue, April 13, 2010 11:21:56 AM<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: Seeking speaker of BSL<br></font><br>
Hi Charles:<br>yep, that looks like the handshape I saw for the more-casual term<br>"Mum" (as well as a variation where the same handshape taps your head<br>at the right temple). Thank you for putting it into Puddle!<br>Will "Mother" be getting into Puddle too? Or is that one up to me/others?<br>-- Kim<br><br><br>On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 10:51 AM, Charles Butler<br><<a ymailto="mailto:chazzer3332000@yahoo.com" href="mailto%3A%25e%25">chazzer3332000@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br>> I just put Mum in, it's just there as Mum, not Mother<br>> ________________________________<br>> From: Kimberley Shaw <<a ymailto="mailto:skifoot@GMAIL.COM" href="mailto%3A%25e%25">skifoot@GMAIL.COM</a>><br>> To: <a ymailto="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACC.EDU" href="mailto%3A%25e%25">SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACC.EDU</a><br>> Sent: Tue, April 13, 2010 10:04:30 AM<br>> Subject: Re: Seeking speaker of BSL<br>><br>> Hi Charles:<br>> great!<br>> I can
see that "Dad" is now in the BSL Puddle, as well as "Father".<br>> But not (yet) Mother/Mum ...<br>> Hey, what if I send a cellphone picture of my handwritten SW of these<br>> signs to Charles to transcribe ... and/or anyone else who's game?<br>> Best,<br>> Kim<br>><br>> On 4/13/10, Charles Butler <<a ymailto="mailto:chazzer3332000@yahoo.com" href="mailto%3A%25e%25">chazzer3332000@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br>>> Hi Val, Kim, and Suzanne, I have loaded the alternate meanings of the two<br>>> alphabetic signs into the UK sign puddle.<br>>><br>>> Charles Butler<br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>> ________________________________<br>>> From: Kimberley Shaw <<a ymailto="mailto:skifoot@GMAIL.COM" href="mailto%3A%25e%25">skifoot@GMAIL.COM</a>><br>>> To: <a ymailto="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACC.EDU" href="mailto%3A%25e%25">SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACC.EDU</a><br>>> Sent: Tue,
April 13, 2010 9:48:48 AM<br>>> Subject: Re: Seeking speaker of BSL<br>>><br>>> Hi Val and all:<br>>> tomorrow, I hope to grab time to SW these for the BSL puddle! Am<br>>> typing from my phone at the moment.<br>>> Best,<br>>> Kim<br>>><br>>> On 4/12/10, SignWriting <<a ymailto="mailto:signwriting@mac.com" href="mailto%3A%25e%25">signwriting@mac.com</a>> wrote:<br>>>> SignWriting List<br>>>> April 12, 2010<br>>>><br>>>> Suzanne and Kim -<br>>>> Can you write the signs you are discussing in SignWriting and post them<br>>>> to<br>>>> the List? I have no idea how to sign or write them and I would love to<br>>>> see<br>>>> the signs written -<br>>>><br>>>> Val ;-)<br>>>><br>>>> -------<br>>>><br>>>> On Apr 12, 2010, at 2:30 PM, Kimberley Shaw
wrote:<br>>>><br>>>>> Thank you, Suzanne! This does give me a good reason to learn the<br>>>>> 2-handed alphabet, which is so different from the ASL (and LSF) one.<br>>>>> However, since the director asked for translation of "mom" and "dad",<br>>>>> rather than "mother" and "father", does BSL make this distinction? ASL<br>>>>> does - although the difference between the more formal and more casual<br>>>>> signs can be subtle to new signers.<br>>>>> Best,<br>>>>> Kim<br>>>>><br>>>>> On 4/12/10, Suzanne pach <<a ymailto="mailto:Suzanne@bordvoorjekop.nl" href="mailto%3A%25e%25">Suzanne@bordvoorjekop.nl</a>> wrote:<br>>>>>> Hi Kim,<br>>>>>><br>>>>>> Mother and Father are usually signed as the letters M and<br>>>>>> F of the BSL-alphabet (which can be found in the
BSL<br>>>>>> SignPuddle). And have have seen Dad being signed as the<br>>>>>> letter D.<br>>>>>><br>>>>>> Good luck!<br>>>>>><br>>>>>> Suzanne<br>>>>>><br>>>>>>> Thank you, Val!<br>>>>>>> I'll forward these links to the director. It would be<br>>>>>>> weird<br>>>>>>> transcribing anything that's in a signed language I don't<br>>>>>>> know ... but<br>>>>>>> I'll give it a go, and will trust in the power if wiki<br>>>>>>> that if I get<br>>>>>>> it very wrong, some BSL speaker will improve on it.<br>>>>>>> :)<br>>>>>>> Best,<br>>>>>>> Kim<br>>>>>>><br>>>>>>> On 4/12/10, SignWriting <<a
ymailto="mailto:signwriting@mac.com" href="mailto%3A%25e%25">signwriting@mac.com</a>> wrote:<br>>>>>>>> SignWriting List<br>>>>>>>> April 12, 2010<br>>>>>>>><br>>>>>>>> Hello Kim!<br>>>>>>>> I am not a BSL signer, however, on the web, there are<br>>>>>>>> video dictionaries.<br>>>>>>>> For example, if you visit this site:<br>>>>>>>><br><span>>>>>>>> <a target="_blank" href="http://www.signstation.org/signstation_dictionary/showUserHomePage.do">http://www.signstation.org/signstation_dictionary/showUserHomePage.do</a></span><br>>>>>>>><br>>>>>>>> or<br>>>>>>>><br><span>>>>>>>> <a target="_blank"
href="http://www.signstation.org/dictionaries.shtml">http://www.signstation.org/dictionaries.shtml</a></span><br>>>>>>>><br>>>>>>>> you can find signs in BSL...<br>>>>>>>><br>>>>>>>> but they require that you register...but it is free I<br>>>>>>>> believe - I would<br>>>>>>>> assume they have the signs you need, and then it would<br>>>>>>>> be great if you would<br>>>>>>>> write them in the BSL SignPuddle for us!<br>>>>>>>><br>>>>>>>> Good luck with your project!<br>>>>>>>><br>>>>>>>> Val ;-)<br>>>>>>>><br>>>>>>>> ---------<br>>>>>>>><br>>>>>>>><br>>>>>>>><br>>>>>>>> On Apr 12,
2010, at 10:27 AM, Kimberley Shaw wrote:<br>>>>>>>><br>>>>>>>>> Hello all:<br>>>>>>>>> the director of a play on my campus needs to know, and<br>>>>>>>>> quite soon:<br>>>>>>>>> how do you sign "mom" and "dad" in BSL? I see "father"<br>>>>>>>>> in the BLS<br>>>>>>>>> puddle, but not "mother", and don't know how much<br>>>>>>>>> different from<br>>>>>>>>> either of those the more casual mom/dad would be.<br>>>>>>>>> If someone can add these to Puddle quickly, the actors<br>>>>>>>>> and director<br>>>>>>>>> would be very, very glad!<br>>>>>>>>> Best of luck with the email migration, a very big<br>>>>>>>>> change, that
...<br>>>>>>>>> Kim from Boston<br>>>>>>>>><br>>>>>>>><br>>>>>>>><br>>>>>>><br>>>>>>><br>>>>>><br>>>>>><br>>>>><br>>>><br>>>><br>><br>><br><br></div></div><div style="position:fixed"></div>
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