<html><head><style type="text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style></head><body><div style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12pt"><div>But how would one show lanes in a polar writing. If one needs multiple lanes to show a sign, say in the name sign Carmen Miranda, is it the center of the sign or the center of the sign component that one is showing. Just trying to make sure I understand cartesian vs polar. Is this is terms of the whole map of the objects in a sign, or each individual sign in a defined grid. Is this like Hangul in which a construction method is being used to show where all the components are in relation to each other, or in relation to an invisible box. </div><div><br></div><div><p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 12.0px Helvetica"><img src="webkit-fake-url://4990672D-5984-4F7A-A021-C445CE7A7494/image.php.png" alt="image.php.png"></p></div><div style="font-family:arial,
helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12pt"><div style="font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><hr size="1"><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> Ingvild Roald <iroald@HOTMAIL.COM><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACC.EDU<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Thu, June 17, 2010 5:32:49 AM<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: Binary SignWriting revision 3 update<br></font><br>
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Would not the polar version make it easier to change size - just one parameter to change (distance), not all as in Cartesian?<br><br>Ingvild <br><br><br> <br>
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Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 14:06:07 -0500<br>From: slevin@SIGNPUDDLE.NET<br>Subject: Re: Binary SignWriting revision 3 update<br>To: SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACC.EDU<br><br>Hi Adam,<br><br>Unfortunately, it's a 2 step process right now.<br><br>The first page converts BSW 2008 to BSW 2010:<br><span><a target="_blank" href="http://signbank.org/iswa_dev/convert/example.php">http://signbank.org/iswa_dev/convert/example.php</a></span><br><br>The second page converts BSW 2010 to BSW 3:<br><span><a target="_blank" href="http://signbank.org/iswa_dev/convert/bsw3.php">http://signbank.org/iswa_dev/convert/bsw3.php</a></span><br><br>Section 4 of the conversion document links to both pages.<br><span><a target="_blank" href="http://signbank.org/iswa_dev/convert/">http://signbank.org/iswa_dev/convert/</a></span><br><br><br>Speaking of conversions, building on the idea of encoding the symbols, but not the layout, I've created 2 different markups that will be able to use my
proposed Unicode implementation. One Cartesian and the other Polar. These markups can be created from any SignPuddle data. <br><br>If we consider "Hello world." in ASL...<br><img alt="" src="cid:1.218563965@web58807.mail.re1.yahoo.com"><br><br><br>The Cartesian markup uses XY coordinates, where the coordinates represent the top,left of the symbol position.<br><br>SignWriting Cartesian Markup<br>---------------------------------------<br>B<img alt="" src="cid:2.218563965@web58807.mail.re1.yahoo.com">-19,-29<img alt="" src="cid:3.218563965@web58807.mail.re1.yahoo.com">3,-11 B<img alt="" src="cid:4.218563965@web58807.mail.re1.yahoo.com">-11,12<img alt="" src="cid:5.218563965@web58807.mail.re1.yahoo.com">-18,-10<img alt="" src="cid:6.218563965@web58807.mail.re1.yahoo.com">6,-7<img alt="" src="cid:7.218563965@web58807.mail.re1.yahoo.com">-2,-30 <img alt="" src="cid:8.218563965@web58807.mail.re1.yahoo.com"><br><br><br>The Polar markup uses
degrees and distance from the center of the sign, where the coordinates represent the center of the symbol position. 12 o'clock is 0° and increases clockwise. So 3 o'clock is 90°, 6 o'clock is 180, and 9 o'clock is 270. It may be very interesting to analyze the Polar markup.<br><br>SignWriting Polar Markup<br>----------------------------------<br>B<img alt="" src="cid:2.218563965@web58807.mail.re1.yahoo.com">330°16<img alt="" src="cid:3.218563965@web58807.mail.re1.yahoo.com">129°14 B<img alt="" src="cid:4.218563965@web58807.mail.re1.yahoo.com">169°21<img alt="" src="cid:5.218563965@web58807.mail.re1.yahoo.com">252°6<img alt="" src="cid:6.218563965@web58807.mail.re1.yahoo.com">80°11<img alt="" src="cid:7.218563965@web58807.mail.re1.yahoo.com">19°21 <img alt="" src="cid:8.218563965@web58807.mail.re1.yahoo.com"><br><br>Thought I'd share,<br>-Steve<br>
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