<html><head><style type="text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style></head><body><div style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12pt"><DIV>For me, If one is going in opposite directions with both hands, then the movements are obvious. If we were to make a rule that added that extra thumb, that would instantly add another 96 rotations to each hand, so it is not, I would think, worth while to do.</DIV>
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<DIV>The opposite 8 rotations are seen, to me, as mirror reflections because we are biliaterally symmetric. You cannot easily turn your own hand around 180 degrees so the extra writing would be so little used as to be a lot of programming for nothing. </DIV>
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<DIV>We already have 96 per, making it 192 would make it prohibitive to include.</DIV>
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<DIV>Charles</DIV>
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<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> Gagnon et Thibeault <atg@VIDEOTRON.CA><BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACC.EDU<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Tue, December 7, 2010 1:41:02 PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: Photo 3E and photo 3F ?<BR></FONT><BR>
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<DIV><STRONG><FONT color=#ffff00 size=6 face=Arial>Hi Charles,</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
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<DIV><STRONG><FONT color=#ffff00 size=6 face=Arial> Thank you very much for your answer. But, it is not easy to read quickly same symbols (D and E) and (C and F).</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
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<DIV><STRONG><FONT color=#ffff00 size=6 face=Arial> Regards,</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
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<DIV><STRONG><FONT color=#ffff00 size=6 face=Arial> André</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Photo 3E and photo 3F ?</DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: x-large" class=Apple-style-span>I would say that D becomes E, and C becomes F. That has always been the case if you reverse the hands then the mirror image applies to the opposite rotation. Else we would have to have a thumb on the white side of the palm, which is never been the case. The thumb follows the back of the hand side.</SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: x-large" class=Apple-style-span>Charles</SPAN></DIV>
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<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> Gagnon et Thibeault <atg@VIDEOTRON.CA><BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACC.EDU<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Tue, December 7, 2010 10:10:32 AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Photo 3E and photo 3F ?<BR></FONT><BR>
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<DIV><STRONG><FONT color=#ffff00 size=6 face=Arial>Hi Val and everyone,</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
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<DIV><STRONG><FONT color=#ffff00 size=6 face=Arial> See the attached right and left hands. You look at 2C, 2D, 3E and 3F.</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
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<DIV><STRONG><FONT color=#ffff00 size=6 face=Arial> I describe a photo 2C. A palm of the left flat hand with a side thumb is facing to the left side wall. The side thumb is facing to the signer.</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
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<DIV><STRONG><FONT color=#ffff00 size=6 face=Arial> For a photo 2D, a palm of the right flat hand with a side thumb is facing to the right side wall. The side thumbe is facing to the signer.</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
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<DIV><STRONG><FONT color=#ffff00 size=6 face=Arial> Now, I ask you how do you write down for photos 3E and 3F?</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
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<DIV><STRONG><FONT color=#ffff00 size=6 face=Arial> I explain a photo 3E. A palm of the left flat hand with a side thumb is facing to the right side wall. The side thumb is facing to a front of the wall.</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
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<DIV><STRONG><FONT color=#ffff00 size=6 face=Arial> For a photo 3F, a palm of the right flat hand with a side thumb is facing to the left side wall. The side thumb is facing to a front of the wall.</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
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<DIV><STRONG><FONT color=#ffff00 size=6 face=Arial> Best regards,</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
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<DIV><STRONG><FONT color=#ffff00 size=6 face=Arial> André</FONT></STRONG></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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