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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I agree Shane; I probably wouldn't go to a web
forum very often but I read my emails almost every day. Even if I just
scan them, it's nice to keep up with what's going on. Of course, it's
possible a web forum would reach people who don't want to subscribe to the
SW-L... maybe Lucy or someone could set up & moderate a web forum (since it
sounds to me like Val already has more than enough on her plate! :-) ) and see
what kind of readership it gets. Just a thought . . .</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>KJ</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=shane.gilchrist@GMAIL.COM
href="mailto:shane.gilchrist@GMAIL.COM">Shane K. Gilchrist</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACC.EDU
href="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACC.EDU">SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACC.EDU</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, January 02, 2011 7:30
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: AW: how would you like to
improve the SignWriting List?</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV><FONT color=#6633ff><FONT face=verdana,sans-serif>if we move it
to web forum, then many people wont get to read it unless youre dedicated to
the issue itself.</FONT></FONT>
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face=verdana,sans-serif><BR></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#6633ff><FONT face=verdana,sans-serif>Discussion groups by
email is still more effective (even thought its not always the best way) - yes
I agree that web forums are easy to deal with it won't get the same readership
you have with SW-L :-(</FONT></FONT></DIV>
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face=verdana,sans-serif><BR></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#6633ff><FONT
face=verdana,sans-serif>Shane<BR></FONT></FONT><BR>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>On 2 January 2011 12:22, Lucy <SPAN dir=ltr><<A
href="mailto:lists@onet.eu">lists@onet.eu</A>></SPAN> wrote:<BR>
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style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">Thank
you, Valerie, for your wishes and all your nice words.<BR>Yes, I know the
List Archive could be accessed via the web. But there are many free web
forum services, we could just choose one and create a new forum divided into
thematic sections, with the sections divided into individual topics... Each
of the section could have also different moderators... You can have a FAQ
section there and also national sections... I think it would be a more
friendly interface and environment for us the users and the new users. When
you are logged in you can see where (in which sections) there are new
postings, who is online, which topic is the most popular, which issues are
the most interesting to the users etc.. And the users can more easily find
the issue they are interested in.<BR>Of course, I don't deny that this List
works well, too, and that Valerie and others do a great work here to help
the others scattered throughout the world. But I just think that a regular
web forum would be just a bit better.<BR>For some time we could have two SW
forums: the List and a web forum to see which is better. Some of you would
need some time to get used to the new forum, mind that.
<DIV class=im><BR>Lucy<BR><BR><BR>----- Original Message ----- From:
"Valerie Sutton" <<A href="mailto:sutton@SIGNWRITING.ORG"
target=_blank>sutton@SIGNWRITING.ORG</A>><BR>To: <<A
href="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACC.EDU"
target=_blank>SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACC.EDU</A>><BR></DIV>Sent: Sunday,
January 02, 2011 4:44 AM<BR>Subject: Re: AW: how would you like to improve
the SignWriting List?
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style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">SignWriting
List<BR>January 1, 2011<BR><BR>Hello Stefan and Lucy!<BR>Thank you for
your kind remarks. I do appreciate your good suggestions.<BR><BR>I also
want to thank other members who have written to me privately today - Your
friendship and support gives the feeling of family. We all need
that...<BR><BR>I enjoy sharing with all of you and am open to suggestions,
so continue to feel free to post suggestions and to start new topics of
discussion related to writing sign languages.<BR><BR>There are around 180
members of the SignWriting List, but only around 20 members post
regularly...maybe even fewer...so those who are reading in the
background...I want you to know that we welcome comments from you
too...smile...or just keep reading...that is fine too...we are glad to
have you all on board.<BR><BR>So Stefan - yes I know you want more
messages written in SignMail, and I do agree. Steve has been working on a
new version of our software that will fix the link-problem with the
current SignMail, but it will be another month perhaps, before SignPuddle
1.6 will be ready (we are using 1.5 right now), so until 1.6, we will have
to continue to ignore that link - if you can ignore that problem then I am
happy to post more SignMails - it just means that you cannot respond to
the message but start a fresh new SignMail message each time -<BR><BR>The
only other thing about SignMail that concerns me is that most of the time
we are doing the mail in ASL, and some people on the List know other sign
languages, like LIBRAS from Brazil, or German Sign Language or British
Sign Language for example...so it would be good to balance out the
SignMails so they come in different sign languages from time to time - so
maybe I can work with Suzanne from the UK to help us create some SignMails
in BSL? and perhaps someone who knows LIBRAS, like Charles or Eda or
others on this List who are from Brazil, can help us create some SignMails
in LIBRAS? And Lucy in Poland, I will teach you how to create a SignMail
too...I haven't forgotten your request to learn how to create a
SignMail...I will also create the Polish User Interface for you for the
Polish SignPuddle ...thank you for the Polish translation...<BR><BR>So
SignMail and video transcriptions and more SignSpelling discussions are
all good - I want more of those too ;-)<BR><BR>I hope that more people ask
questions on the List as to how to write a sign here and there to get
those discussions going - and more teachers jump in to help if you can -
and I hope that more people will post information about their current
SignWriting projects...<BR><BR>Lucy - your idea of a web-based SignWriting
List has not gone unnoticed - at the moment we are setup at Valencia
Community College, on their server, connected with other Lists related to
sign languages, such as the Sign Language Linguists List (SLLING) and the
TeachASL List and the Interpreters List (TERPS) so it is nice for us to be
in that group of Lists with others interested in similar professions - and
in some ways it is web based in that you can access the messages through
the Archives on the web and respond right there on the web..did you know
that you could do that? Would other members of the list be interested to
learn how to do this?<BR><BR>And Lucy - Happy Birthday! I know January 2nd
is your birthday, and we are so happy to know you and to work with you -
Your work with SignWriting in Poland is a pioneering effort...Thank you
for all you are doing...and enjoy your birthday tomorrow....
;-)<BR><BR>Val ;-)<BR><BR>-----------<BR><BR><BR><BR>On Jan 1, 2011, at
3:26 PM, Stefan Wöhrmann wrote:<BR><BR>
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style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">Hi
Valerie -<BR><BR>your Website is fantastic and the way you moderate this
sw-list could not be<BR>better. Again and again you show so much respect
for newcomers. And even if<BR>somebody shows up with some kind of "rude"
or "unfriendly" critics you find<BR>a way to handle this in an amazing
way.<BR><BR>I just would love to see more signmails - which would become
easier once<BR>Steve has fixed this SignPuddle mail option problem "Load
to SignBank" which<BR>is not working right now. I am looking forward to
the day that the Signmail<BR>- reload option will function
again.<BR><BR>I would love to see more spelling discussions. Studying
your unique style of<BR>writing signs is a never ending
enrichment.<BR><BR>There are so many online SL video clips that we will
find plenty of examples<BR>....<BR><BR>Remember these days when we
started to discusse video transcriptions with<BR>Marc Penner and other
sw-list members?<BR><BR>I do not think that a different platform like a
web-forum would be an<BR>advantage. ... May be that I do not understand
- ...<BR><BR>Stefan ;-)<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>-----Ursprüngliche
Nachricht-----<BR>Von: SignWriting List: Read and Write Sign
Languages<BR>[mailto:<A href="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACC.EDU"
target=_blank>SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACC.EDU</A>] Im Auftrag von
Lucy<BR>Gesendet: Sonntag, 2. Januar 2011 00:00<BR>An: <A
href="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACC.EDU"
target=_blank>SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACC.EDU</A><BR>Betreff: Re: how would
you like to improve the SignWriting List?<BR><BR>I know I repeat this
like a parrot: Make it just modern - move to a web<BR>forum :-)<BR>Happy
New Year!<BR>Lucy<BR><BR>----- Original Message ----- From: "Valerie
Sutton" <<A href="mailto:sutton@SIGNWRITING.ORG"
target=_blank>sutton@SIGNWRITING.ORG</A>><BR>To: <<A
href="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACC.EDU"
target=_blank>SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACC.EDU</A>><BR>Sent: Saturday,
January 01, 2011 9:38 PM<BR>Subject: how would you like to improve the
SignWriting List?<BR><BR><BR>
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style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">SignWriting
List<BR>January 1, 2011<BR><BR>Dear SW List Members -<BR><BR>How would
you like to improve the SignWriting List?<BR><BR>Please post your
suggestions...<BR><BR>What are you interested in, related to writing
sign languages?<BR><BR>Name some topics -<BR><BR>We can make the list
interesting and relevant...but we need your input...<BR><BR><BR>Val
;-)<BR><BR><BR>Valerie
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