<html><head><style type="text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style></head><body><div style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12pt"><div>There is information on Brazil under Brazil and SignWriting, look for any posting by Fernando Capovilla at the University of Sao Paulo. He has been looking to get the word out about the breakthroughs that are happening in Deaf education. His longitudinal study of 8000 Deaf Students in every state of Brazil should be known everywhere.</div><div><br></div><div>The other example I can think of is SignWriting in Saudi Arabia and other Arabic-speaking countries. Using a writing system that reduces the human form to an icon enables them to learn the Quran and translate that literature in Saudi Arabian, Tunisian, and other sign languages. </div><div><br></div><div>Charles</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12pt"><br><div
style="font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><hr size="1"><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> Stefan Wöhrmann <stefanwoehrmann@GEBAERDENSCHRIFT.DE><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACC.EDU<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Mon, January 10, 2011 10:19:46 AM<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> AW: Filme " E seu nome é Jonas"<br></font><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="4" color="navy" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;">Hi Charles,</span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="4" color="navy" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;">I am interested to learn more
about the “</span></font><font size="4" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:Arial;">longitudinal studies in
Brazil and
other countries”. </span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="4" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="
font-size:14.0pt;font-family:Arial;">Can you give some information where I can get first
hand information to get an idea about that? What other countries?</span></font></p>
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SignWriting List : Read and
Write Sign Languages [mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACC.EDU] <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Im Auftrag von </span></b>Charles Butler<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Gesendet:</span></b> Montag, 10. Januar 2011
16:14<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">An:</span></b> SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACC.EDU<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Betreff:</span></b> Re: Filme " E seu
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;">This film is about a boy who is diagnosed as mentally
retarded for years until someone actually does a hearing test and discovers
that he is brilliant, just deaf. As soon as he begins to learn sign language,
his life improves dramatically.</span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;">The film is "Your Name is Jonah" in English.
I would say the same thing for Deaf folk who begin to learn SignWriting.
From longitudinal studies in Brazil and other countries, having a
measurable way to prove written literacy enables Deaf and Hearing folk to truly
compare intelligence in the written word.</span></font></p>
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<iroald@HOTMAIL.COM><br>
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Mon, January 10, 2011
4:29:11 AM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: Filme " E seu
nome é Jonas"<br>
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What is this about?? I never heard of it. Has it anything to do with
signwriting? If not, why do you mention it on this list?? I am confused.<br>
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Ingvild <br>
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22:01:24 +0300<br>
From: isalibras123@HOTMAIL.COM<br>
Subject: Re: Filme " E seu nome é Jonas"<br>
To: SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACC.EDU<br>
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Obrigada!!!!</span></font></p>
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11:09:07 -0800<br>
From: chazzer3332000@YAHOO.COM<br>
Subject: Re: Filme " E seu nome é Jonas"<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;">My name is Jonas is quite a powerful film. I will see
about availability in this area.</span></font></p>
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silva <isalibras123@HOTMAIL.COM><br>
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Thu, January 6, 2011
11:27:58 AM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> Filme " E seu nome é
Jonas"<br>
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Boa Tarde amigo Charles!<br>
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Você poderia me ajudar? Preciso muito saber onde encontrar o filme " E seu
nome é Jonas". Não consigo encontra esse filme é muito dificíl...<br>
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OBS: FELIZ ANO NOVO !!!!!!!!<br>
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ATT: Isa Peixoto</p>
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22:04:10 -0800<br>
From: chazzer3332000@YAHOO.COM<br>
Subject: Re: AW: AW: Creating a sign language ordered dictionary<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;">Excellent answer, it will be a challenge for my work with
Ethiopian Sign Language as their abjad is so different than the Roman alphabet.</span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;"><b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold;">From:</span></font></b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;"> Valerie
Sutton <sutton@SIGNWRITING.ORG><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACC.EDU<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Sat, December 11, 2010
7:38:27 PM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: AW: AW: Creating a
sign language ordered dictionary<br>
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SignWriting List<br>
December 11, 2010<br>
<br>
Hello Charles and Stefan -<br>
<br>
Great discussion! ;-)<br>
<br>
Before I go back to respond to all that has been said (tomorrow when I am back
online), I want to explain to others who are reading our messages, what we are
talking about...<br>
<br>
SignWriting can be sorted in dictionaries and lists "by Sign
Symbols"...Sorting dictionaries or vocabulary lists by Sign-Symbols is
done with two processes:<br>
<br>
1. First, the "SignSpelling Sequence" must be established. It is
"the order of symbols within EACH sign...like spellings for words in
spoken languages - the "spelling order" of symbols has to be
understood by the computer, so the computer can "sort" the dictionary
by Sign-Symbols...<br>
<br>
To establish the "SignSpelling Sequence" for each sign in SignPuddle,
we ask the writers of the signs to click on the SignSpelling button to the
right of the signs they have written (must be logged-in to do this). The writer
tells the computer what symbol in the sign should come first, and what symbol
should come second etc, when finding signs in a list...<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
2. Second, once the sign has its SignSpelling established, then, when someone
searches for a list of signs in SignPuddle, using the Symbol Frequency or
Search by Symbol or Search by Signs searching methods, all of the signs that
have a SignSpelling Sequence established in the dictionary will be listed
sorted by the alphabetical order of SignWriting , called the
Sign-Symbol-Sequence...<br>
<br>
3. If a sign does NOT have a SignSpelling entered in the dictionary, and there
are lots of them, then SignPuddle places them in the list "as best as it
can based on a semi-good sequencing that is automated"...but so far
SignPuddle really needs the writers to put in the SignSpelling Sequence they
feel is best manually, because the automated choices are not as good as they
should be -<br>
<br>
I am hoping in time that we can improve the automated listings without the
manual work, but we are not there yet, because there are still other theories
as to which SignSpelling Sequence is right and I am not sure myself - I think
all of our theories need to be tested on lots of people - can they find signs
quickly in a thick dictionary sorted by Sign-Symbols? that kind of research
needs to be done with lots of skilled signwriters to see who can find signs in
a thick dictionary the fastest, based on different sorting methods -<br>
<br>
So Charles, I am working on updating SignBank, a dictionary publishing program
for SignWriting, to use the ISWA 2010, and SignPuddle will be using the ISWA
2010 in about a month or so, and when all the programs are using the ISWA 2010,
you will be able to find a list of vocabulary in SignPuddle, export the list to
SignBank, and print dictionaries sorted by Sign-Symbol-Sequence from SignBank.
Someday SignPuddle will also have the print formats built in, but not yet ;-)<br>
<br>
You can see a few old examples of these dictionaries produced by SignBank years
ago on this web page:<br>
<br><span>
<a target="_blank" href="http://signbank.org/dictionaries/">http://signbank.org/dictionaries/</a></span><br>
<br>
Numbers 2, 3 and 5 are all PDFs that were made from a combination of SignPuddle
and SignBank - SignBank is simply a database program that accepts the signs
from SignPuddle into different print formats for printing dictionaries both
directions -<br>
<br>
I will read your messages more carefully tomorrow morning and look forward to
it - I am sorry I must run right now ;-)<br>
<br>
Talk to you tomorrow -<br>
<br>
Val ;-)<br>
<br>
------<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
On Dec 11, 2010, at 4:05 PM, Charles Butler wrote:<br>
<br>
> I understand your "search by word" for practical reasons, I
guess what I am looking to would be a future in which signed language
dictionaries are just that, signed language dictionaries, not bilingual
dictionaries in a spoken language with signs attached to them.<br>
> <br>
> You wouldn't teach English grammar in French, nor French grammar in
English unless you intended that a person never be fluent in English alone or
French alone. <br>
> <br>
> So in teaching ASL, or LIBRAS, or Ethiopian Sign Language, I'm trying to
truly think in a signed language, in projection, so if I want to find a sign, I
want to look it up by handshape because I may see someone using the sign and I
have no idea, even in context, what it may mean.<br>
> <br>
> I got so frustrated when I was taking ASL at Gallaudet University and the
question was asked "how many signs can you think of which use the
"little finger" handshape. <br>
> <br>
> The lists of signs included, spaghetti, innocent, idea, draw, etc, but
every one of the lists was in English words, in what I thought was a
"total immersion" sign language class.<br>
> <br>
> I was the only one taking notes in sign language, so if I saw a sign I
didn't know, I tried not to ask in English, but in sign, and expected a signed
answer, not an English language answer, but the teacher, who was native Deaf,
kept on writing down English words, not what I wanted at all.<br>
> <br>
> Charles<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> From: Stefan Wöhrmann <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:stefanwoehrmann@GEBAERDENSCHRIFT.DE" target="_blank" href="mailto:stefanwoehrmann@GEBAERDENSCHRIFT.DE">stefanwoehrmann@GEBAERDENSCHRIFT.DE</a>><br>
> To: <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACC.EDU" target="_blank" href="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACC.EDU">SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACC.EDU</a><br>
> Sent: Sat, December 11, 2010 6:54:36 PM<br>
> Subject: AW: AW: Creating a sign language ordered dictionary<br>
> <br>
> Hi Charles,<br>
> <br>
> thanks for your explanation. <br>
> <br>
> Well for practical reasons I am happy to look up a sign from „searching by
word“.<br>
> Sometimes I feel lucky to look for signs by symbol – especially if I get a
message in ASL and have to look for the meaning of a sign.<br>
> I see that you would love to have a dictionary in sign order. – This is
interesting.<br>
> <br>
> I do not know what categories would be first, second third – if I would go
to sort all the signs.<br>
> <br>
> Thanks for your answer.<br>
> <br>
> Stefan<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Von: SignWriting List :
Read and Write Sign Languages [mailto:<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACC.EDU" target="_blank" href="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACC.EDU">SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACC.EDU</a>]
Im Auftrag vonCharles Butler<br>
> Gesendet: Sonntag, 12. Dezember 2010 00:14<br>
> An: <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACC.EDU" target="_blank" href="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACC.EDU">SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACC.EDU</a><br>
> Betreff: Re: AW: Creating a sign language ordered dictionary<br>
> <br>
> Okay, when Valerie first came out with Sign Writing for Everyday Use, we
had an order to the signs within each group, following in a logical order from
straight to bent to curled. With the growth of the system, handshapes
have been added without a logical progression so that missing ones may be
inferred but there is no order to them. <br>
> <br>
> For a complete dictionary, in sign order, then pushing "Sign
Frequency" will print them by group and in order of the numbers of the
codes, but that coding is not consistent across the board.<br>
> <br>
> When I teach the system, I teach it in an order, Group 1, then Group 2,
then Group 3, then Group 4, but i also attempt to put the actual handshapes in
a logical order, and at the moment that varies from sign language to sign
language depending on which handshapes are actually used in the language. <br>
> <br>
> I published, some time ago, a proposed system to put <br>
> <br>
> 1) handshape<br>
> 2) orientation starting from facing the reader, half left or right, back
of hand, face up, forward half left or right, face down<br>
> 3) rotation from vertical rotating clockwise.<br>
> 4) --- second handshape would fit here if more than one hand is in the
sign, orientation, rotation<br>
> 4A - I put location here, Valerie puts it at the end, from her experiments
with Deaf looking up signs. <br>
> 5) --- contact (touch, strike, brush, rub)<br>
> 6) --- finger movement<br>
> 7) --- vertical movement<br>
> 8) --- horizontal movement<br>
> 9) --- curved vertical movement<br>
> 10) --- curved horizontal movement<br>
> 11) --- circles<br>
> 12) --- speed<br>
> 13) --- facial expressions<br>
> <br>
> So, for example, the following are in Sign-Symbol-Sequence Order for
me. All two handed signs come after all one handed signs for the same
orientation. <br>
> <br>
> = Group 1, primary orientation, no movement<br>
> <br>
> = Group 1, primary orientation, movement vertical, <br>
> <br>
> = Group 1, primary orientation, first hand, group one, primary
orientation second hand, movement horizontal, facial involvement (ALL TWO
HANDED SIGNS COME AFTER ONE HANDED SIGNS)<br>
> <br>
> = Group 1, primary orientation, first hand, group 5, back of hand,
second hand, movement horizontal (GROUP 5 comes after GROUP 1) <br>
> <br>
> = Group 1, second orientation, 45 counter clockwise, circular
motion, facial involvement<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> - Group 1, first hand, second orientation, 45 counter clockwise,
Group 1, crooked handshape, finger movement, finger movement. Is this
before the one above from the finger movement?<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> (SKIPPING A FEW)<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> = Group 5, first hand, forward, half, 45 counter clockwise, Group 5,
second hand, forward, half, 45 clockwise, held in between, forward twice <br>
> <br>
> Group 5, side forward, half, 45 counter clockwise, Group 5 side
forward, half, 45 clockwise, held in between, twice forward twice, slow<br>
> <br>
> The Sign Symbol Sequence may order the signs if each of them has been
ordered, but I have not sufficiently experimented to see if one enters signs
and then orders them by one's chosen order whether the "symbol
frequency" will follow that order. <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> From: Stefan Wöhrmann <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:stefanwoehrmann@GEBAERDENSCHRIFT.DE" target="_blank" href="mailto:stefanwoehrmann@GEBAERDENSCHRIFT.DE">stefanwoehrmann@GEBAERDENSCHRIFT.DE</a>><br>
> To: <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACC.EDU" target="_blank" href="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACC.EDU">SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACC.EDU</a><br>
> Sent: Sat, December 11, 2010 12:08:45 PM<br>
> Subject: AW: Creating a sign language ordered dictionary<br>
> <br>
> Hi Charles,<br>
> <br>
> can you explain? I do not understand.<br>
> <br>
> Stefan ;-)<br>
> <br>
> Von: SignWriting List :
Read and Write Sign Languages [mailto:<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACC.EDU" target="_blank" href="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACC.EDU">SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACC.EDU</a>]
Im Auftrag vonCharles Butler<br>
> Gesendet: Samstag, 11. Dezember 2010 14:29<br>
> An: <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACC.EDU" target="_blank" href="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACC.EDU">SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACC.EDU</a><br>
> Betreff: Re: Creating a sign language ordered dictionary<br>
> <br>
> But can you print a dictionary from Sign Puddle in one's chosen order
without constructing it yourself? I order my dictionary down to the individual
handshape and movement, and that is all by hand.<br>
> <br>
> Charles<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> From: Stefan Wöhrmann <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:stefanwoehrmann@GOOGLEMAIL.COM" target="_blank" href="mailto:stefanwoehrmann@GOOGLEMAIL.COM">stefanwoehrmann@GOOGLEMAIL.COM</a>><br>
> To: <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACC.EDU" target="_blank" href="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACC.EDU">SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACC.EDU</a><br>
> Sent: Sat, December 11, 2010 2:37:24 AM<br>
> Subject: AW: I need your help: DOS Box and SignWriter 4.4<br>
> <br>
> Hi Meryeme,<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> I am no software expert whatsoever and it took me a long time to
understand the tricks how to install the DOS-Box proberly to work together with
the SW 4.4 Program (except for printing) . I wrote a short tutorial –<br>
> <br><span>
> <a target="_blank" href="http://www.gebaerdenschrift.de/documents/dos_winxp/dos_box_installation.htm">http://www.gebaerdenschrift.de/documents/dos_winxp/dos_box_installation.htm</a></span><br>
> <br>
> Perhaps this can support you in your efforts?<br>
> <br>
> In addition to that. It takes some time to become an expert with this DOS
– SignWriter 4.4 Program - you have to download and install the
dictionary ...<br>
> <br>
> As Valerie mentioned before – the SignPuddle software allows an easy way
to create entries, to create documents, to send emails written in SignWriting,
to look up terms word – to sign order and to look up signs – symbol –to sign
order, you can search for frequencies (what are the most often used symbols)
....<br>
> <br>
> Good luck<br>
> <br>
> Stefan<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Von: SignWriting List : Read
and Write Sign Languages [mailto:<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACC.EDU" target="_blank" href="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACC.EDU">SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACC.EDU</a>]
Im Auftrag vonMeryeme Ayache<br>
> Gesendet: Freitag, 10. Dezember 2010 22:04<br>
> An: <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACC.EDU" target="_blank" href="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACC.EDU">SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACC.EDU</a><br>
> Betreff: Re: I need your help<br>
> <br>
> hey Valerie and Stefan :-)<br>
> I hope that you all are doing well. I installed the DOSbox
but I have problem in some DOS commands like 'md \sw' in order to create f
directory but I will keep trying I think that is because I am using window 7
but I am not sure. and by the way I used the ASL SignPuddle Dictionary and I
really like but I don't wanna use it in my project because I need to enter the
sign writing manually because I have to verify first if the entered character
belong to the list of sign-writing language or not and that is what we call it
(the lexical analyzer :-) and it is the first step to realize a compiler I will
let you updated of my researches <br>
> <br>
> -- <br>
> Meryeme Ayache.<br>
> Elève ingénieur ( 2ème année )<br>
> Ecole Nationale Supérieure d'Informatique et d'Analyse des Systèmes (
Rabat ).</span></font></p>
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