<html><head><base href="x-msg://24/"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">SignWriting List<div>February 7, 2011</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks for your comments, Charles -</div><div><br></div><div>That is so true - We can write either hand as dominant, and we can write ambidextrous signing too!</div><div><br></div><div>Whatever the signer signs, we can write it, no matter what hand they choose as dominant -</div><div><br></div><div>Val ;-)</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On Feb 7, 2011, at 10:48 AM, Charles Butler wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: Arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; "><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">I think that this is a situation where the "citation" form is right handed, but one may have left-handed signers switching dominant hands.</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "> </div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Long-term, we need to have a function that will switch everything from "right-hand dominant" to "left-hand dominant" and "expressive" to "receptive" but it currently does not exist.</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "> </div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Every class I have ever taught in Sign Writing has had at least one left-handed signer, so that we teach "write what you see on your own hands". Having left-handed and right-handed students teaches everyone that the system is universal, not one hand dominant over the other in writing.</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "> </div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Charles</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><br> </div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font-size: 12pt; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; "><br><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; "><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><hr size="1"><b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">From:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Charles Butler <<a href="mailto:chazzer3332000@YAHOO.COM">chazzer3332000@YAHOO.COM</a>><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">To:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACC.EDU">SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACC.EDU</a><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">Sent:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Mon, February 7, 2011 1:34:05 PM<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">Subject:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: QUESTION: Can we write left-handed signing?<br></font><br><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font-size: 12pt; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; "><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">The dark arrow is for the right hand, the white arrow is for the left hand. If you write your language left-hand dominant, that is fine, but left and right don't change. The arrows are for which hand is used, not which is dominant.</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "> </div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Fingers follow the hand. The whole system is built for both hands.</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "> </div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Charles</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><br> </div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font-size: 12pt; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; "><br><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font-size: 13px; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; "><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><hr size="1"><b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">From:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Valerie Sutton <<a href="mailto:sutton@SIGNWRITING.ORG">sutton@SIGNWRITING.ORG</a>><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">To:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACC.EDU">SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACC.EDU</a><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">Sent:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Mon, February 7, 2011 1:09:21 PM<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">Subject:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>QUESTION: Can we write left-handed signing?<br></font><br>SignWriting List<br>February 7, 2011<br><br>QUESTION:<br><br>On Feb 2, 2011:<br>> Hello!<br>> There is one thing I was wondering about ; I « sign » with my left hand, and the the writing is made for right handed persons. I haven't read enough to know if the inversion in writing can pose a problem in the understanding. As a left handed person I would, for example,automatically inverse the place of the dark side on the drawing on the hand « flat » : I would put It on the left side rather than on the right side. I would also, on the drawing of the hand with finger, put the stick representing the thumb on the right side. It trouble me much when I »m trynig to learn. Is the inversion accepted?<br>> I go on descovering the Sign Writing. I will surely rewrite. Have an nice day!<br><br>---------<br><br>ANSWER:<br><br>Thank you for this message and your question....<br><br>Go right ahead and write left-handed signing - no problem!<br><br>It is accepted to write either way.<br><br>Writing left-handed signing or right-handed signing - BOTH can be written in SignWriting and there is no problem reading it...<br><br>Just as there is no problem in real life...when you look at a left-handed signer or a right-handed signer - we can all understand each other, whether we are signing to each other, or reading it in SignWriting...<br><br>In our formal SignWriting documents, we choose to write right-handed signing, because most signers are right handed, so that is our standard way of publishing...but we do have some publications written in left handed signing -<br><br>Right now you notice this more, because you are new to SignWriting, but later it will become less important until you get used to reading it either way -<br><br>I have more to tell you about left-handed and right-handed signing next message...<br><br><br><br>Val ;-)<br><br>Valerie Sutton<br>SignWriting List moderator<br><a href="mailto:sutton@signwriting.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:sutton@signwriting.org">sutton@signwriting.org</a><br><br>Post Messages to the SignWriting List:<br><a href="mailto:sw-l@listserv.valenciacc.edu" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:sw-l@listserv.valenciacc.edu">sw-l@listserv.valenciacc.edu</a><br><br>SignWriting List Archives & Home Page<br><a href="http://www.signwriting.org/forums/swlist">http://www.signwriting.org/forums/swlist</a><br><br>Join, Leave or Change How You Receive SW List Messages<br><a href="http://listserv.valenciacc.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=SW-L&A=1">http://listserv.valenciacc.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=SW-L&A=1</a><br><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></span></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>