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SignWriting List: Read and Write Sign Languages [mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACC.ED</span></font><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>U] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>Im Auftrag von </span></b>Valerie Sutton<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Gesendet:</span></b> Donnerstag, 19. Mai 2011
18:20<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>An:</span></b> SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACC.EDU<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Betreff:</span></b> Re: SignWriting in Polish
Wiktionary</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>May 18, 2011<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Thank you, Gerard, for this blog post about the Polish Sign Language
addition that is written in SignWriting, in the Polish Wiktionary... I love the
story too! <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>On May 18, 2011, at 1:38 PM, Gerard Meijssen wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Hoi,<br>
I love the story so much ...<br>
<a
href="http://ultimategerardm.blogspot.com/2011/05/signwriting-on-polish-wiktionary.html">http://ultimategerardm.blogspot.com/2011/05/signwriting-on-polish-wiktionary.html</a><br>
Thanks,<br>
GerardM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>2011/5/10 Olaf Matyja <<a href="mailto:olafmat@gmail.com">olafmat@gmail.com</a>><br>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>I'm happy to inform that
inside the Polish edition of the Wiktionary,<br>
a Polish Sign Language section has been created. Over 1600 dictionary<br>
entries were enhanced by Polish Sign Language translations in<br>
SignWriting notation. In fact it is an import of the brillant work<br>
primarily by Lucyna Długołęcka, acquired from the Polish SignPuddle.<br>
The sings have been uploaded to the Wikimedia Commons repository,<br>
which makes them available in all language editions of Wikipedia,<br>
Wikibooks, and other Wikimedia Foundation projects.<br>
<br>
URL of the dictionary:<br>
<a
href="http://pl.wiktionary.org/wiki/S%C5%82ownik_polskiego_j%C4%99zyka_migowego"
target="_blank">http://pl.wiktionary.org/wiki/S%C5%82ownik_polskiego_j%C4%99zyka_migowego</a><br>
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An example of the translation: <a
href="http://pl.wiktionary.org/wiki/minuta#transl" target="_blank">http://pl.wiktionary.org/wiki/minuta#transl</a><br>
<br>
Uploaded signs: <a
href="http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Polish_SignWriting"
target="_blank">http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Polish_SignWriting</a><br>
<br>
Unfortunately the pictures are still in bitmap format, because SVG<br>
versions were not available a few months ago.<br>
Entries sometimes lack a bit of formatting as well (for example here:<br>
<a href="http://pl.wiktionary.org/wiki/godzina#transl" target="_blank">http://pl.wiktionary.org/wiki/godzina#transl</a>
).<br>
A new look has been discussed:<br>
<a
href="http://pl.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wikis%C5%82ownik:Bar/Archiwum_13#Polski_j.C4.99zyk_migowy_.E2.80.93_t.C5.82umaczenia"
target="_blank">http://pl.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wikis%C5%82ownik:Bar/Archiwum_13#Polski_j.C4.99zyk_migowy_.E2.80.93_t.C5.82umaczenia</a><br>
however the entries haven't been converted yet. But it's a matter of<br>
time, I believe...<br>
<br>
<br>
Best regards,<br>
Olaf Matyja<br>
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-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Valerie Sutton [mailto:<a href="mailto:sutton@signwriting.org">sutton@signwriting.org</a>]<br>
Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 1:23 AM<br>
To: Olaf Matyja<br>
Cc: Valerie Sutton; Steve Slevinski<br>
Subject: Re: SignWriting in Wiktionary<br>
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<br>
Hello Olaf -<br>
Thank you for this message. I am happy you like SignWriting ;-)<br>
<br>
And of course you are most welcome to use SignWriting freely. You have<br>
my full permission to copy and use any information on our SignWriting<br>
web sites...just give the web sites and the writers credit, that's<br>
all...<br>
<br>
Regarding licenses in general:<br>
<br>
1. The individual SignWriting symbols, for software developers, are<br>
under the free OFL License by SIL:<br>
<br>
OFL SIL License<br>
<a href="http://scripts.sil.org/cms/scripts/page.php?site_id=nrsi&id=OFL"
target="_blank">http://scripts.sil.org/cms/scripts/page.php?site_id=nrsi&id=OFL</a><br>
<br>
<br>
2. Our software, such as the SignWriting Image Server (SWIS) is under<br>
the GPL License:<br>
<br>
SWIS - Open Standards of SignWriting<br>
<a href="http://www.signbank.org/swis/" target="_blank">http://www.signbank.org/swis/</a><br>
<br>
I have included Steve Slevinski in this email if you would like to<br>
discuss it with him...Steve also developed the SignWriting MediaWiki<br>
Plugin, which makes the SignWriting Wiki possible:<br>
<br>
SignWriting Wiki<br>
<a href="http://www.signbank.org/wiki" target="_blank">http://www.signbank.org/wiki</a><br>
<br>
<br>
3. But regarding the Polish Sign Language entries in the free and open<br>
SignPuddle Online, they were written freely by Polish signers, and you<br>
or anyone are welcome to copy and paste the written signs into your<br>
sites - of course giving <a href="http://SignPuddle.org">SignPuddle.org</a>, <a
href="http://SignWriting.org">SignWriting.org</a> and any<br>
writers of the Polish signs credit would be wonderful...I can put you<br>
in touch with the Polish signers who entered the signs if you wish -<br>
<br>
4. For images from our sites, we have used both of these licenses in<br>
the past depending on the situation:<br>
<br>
CC-BY 3.0, CC-BY-SA 3.0<br>
<br>
The terms of the Creative Commons Attribution-Sharealike 3.0 Unported<br>
License are fine with me for the content of the Polish SignPuddle<br>
Dictionary...<br>
<br>
Go right ahead - it is good for SignWriting and for all those who use<br>
Polish Sign Language.<br>
<br>
One request - you will notice in the "source" field under each entry<br>
in SignPuddle, many entries were written by Lucyna Dlugolecka from<br>
Warsaw. Lucyna is Deaf. Could you somewhere give credit to Lucyna, and<br>
point them to this web area:<br>
<br>
SignWriting in Poland<br>
<a href="http://www.signwriting.org/poland/" target="_blank">http://www.signwriting.org/poland/</a><br>
<br>
Many thanks - and keep us informed - I would like to link our sites to<br>
your work...<br>
<br>
plus if you need help with transferring all the signs etc, Steve is<br>
the one to talk to about the technical transfer... and also about any<br>
other details about licenses...<br>
<br>
Thanks for your interest and we look forward to seeing SignWriting on<br>
your site -<br>
<br>
Val ;-)<br>
<br>
<br>
Valerie Sutton<br>
<a href="mailto:Sutton@SignWriting.org">Sutton@SignWriting.org</a><br>
<br>
SignWriting<br>
Read & Write Sign Languages<br>
<a href="http://www.SignWriting.org/" target="_blank">http://www.SignWriting.org</a><br>
<br>
SignPuddle<br>
Create SignWriting Documents Online<br>
<a href="http://www.SignBank.org/signpuddle" target="_blank">http://www.SignBank.org/signpuddle</a><br>
<br>
SignWriting Wiki<br>
Wiki-style Articles in Sign Languages<br>
<a href="http://www.signbank.org/wiki" target="_blank">http://www.signbank.org/wiki</a><br>
<br>
SignWriting List<br>
Technical Support: Ask questions...<br>
<a href="http://www.SignWriting.org/forums/swlist" target="_blank">http://www.SignWriting.org/forums/swlist</a><br>
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On Aug 8, 2010, at 3:37 PM, Olaf Matyja wrote:<br>
<br>
> I really like the SignWriting idea. It's just wonderful. I am preparing
for<br>
> building a dictionary of the Polish Sign Language, as a part of the Polish<br>
> Wiktionary (<a href="http://pl.wiktionary.org/" target="_blank">http://pl.wiktionary.org</a>).
I would be happy to include<br>
> information about signwriting as well. Is it legally possible to copy
images<br>
> of signs taken from your site?<br>
><br>
> I would upload the images to the Wikimedia Commons<br>
> (<a href="http://commons.wikimedia.org/" target="_blank">http://commons.wikimedia.org</a>),
which requires one of the following<br>
> licenses: PD, GFDL 1.3, CC-BY 3.0, CC-BY-SA 3.0, FAL 1.3. Normally we ask<br>
> permission for material to be used under the terms of the Creative Commons<br>
> Attribution-Sharealike 3.0 Unported License. This means that although you<br>
> retain the copyright and authorship of the work, you are granting
permission<br>
> for all others (not just Wiktionary) to use, copy, and share your
materials<br>
> freely - and even potentially use them commercially - so long as they do
not<br>
> try to claim the copyright themselves, nor prevent others from using or<br>
> copying them freely.<br>
><br>
> So, may I use the content of the Polish SignPuddle dictionary<br>
> (<a href="http://www.signbank.org/SignPuddle1.5/index.php?ui=7&sgn=19"
target="_blank">http://www.signbank.org/SignPuddle1.5/index.php?ui=7&sgn=19</a>
) under<br>
> CC-BY-SA 3.0 license?<br>
><br>
> Yours sincerely,<br>
> Olaf Matyja<br>
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12.0pt'>Val ;-)<br>
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Valerie Sutton<br>
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