<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12pt"><div><span>I seem to be having a problem in editing even my own writing now. I put the original with rotations opposite and forward and now can't touch it. This is getting VERY old.</span></div><div><br><span></span></div><div><span>Charles</span></div><div><br></div><div style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"><font face="Arial" size="2"><hr size="1"><b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Adam Frost <icemandeaf@GMAIL.COM><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Friday, June 3, 2011 2:02 PM<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: Query on SignWriting - Editing problem<br></font><br>
<div id="yiv1716893360">Actually, looking at that writing, it seems that I was wrong. Sorry. The correct timing symbol that would go with this writing is actually simultaneous. The way the arrows are written, it is a rowing motion with both hands going in a up-forward motion. Not what we are trying to write. So that writing is wrong. I admit I made a mistake. :-)<div><br></div><div>Adam</div><div><br><div><div>On Jun 3, 2011, at 10:43 AM, Charles Butler wrote:</div><br class="yiv1716893360Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;"><div style=""><span style="">I just re-read this, this is bicycle motion. The left hand moves up and over away from the reader, the right hand moves up and over away from the reader. The motions are pointed toward the center so that they are parallel. The dark part of the circle is toward the reader, so up toward
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<div style="BORDER-BOTTOM:#ccc 1px solid;BORDER-LEFT:#ccc 1px solid;PADDING-BOTTOM:0px;LINE-HEIGHT:0;MARGIN:5px 0px;PADDING-LEFT:0px;PADDING-RIGHT:0px;FONT-SIZE:0px;BORDER-TOP:#ccc 1px solid;BORDER-RIGHT:#ccc 1px solid;PADDING-TOP:0px;" class="yiv1716893360hr"></div><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT:bold;">From:</span></b> Adam Frost <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:icemandeaf@GMAIL.COM" target="_blank" href="mailto:icemandeaf@GMAIL.COM">icemandeaf@GMAIL.COM</a>><br><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT:bold;">To:</span></b> <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU" target="_blank" href="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU">SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU</a><br><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Friday, June 3, 2011 12:45 PM<br><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT:bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: Query on SignWriting - Editing problem<br></font><br>
<div id="yiv1716893360">The way that I understand the timing symbols is that they just add information to how the sign is produced rather than changing how a sign is produced. That is why I don't usually write with the timing symbols because the arrows usually are enough. If I were to try to sign the first writing, I would get:
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