<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12pt"><div><span>Both hands forward at the same time.</span></div><div><span><br></span></div><div><span>Charles</span></div><div><span><br></span></div><div><br></div><div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; "><div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; "><font size="2" face="Arial"><hr size="1"><b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Adam Frost <icemandeaf@GMAIL.COM><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Sunday, June 12, 2011 11:24 AM<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: Trying to read this sign - Query for users of LIBRAS<br></font><br>
<div id="yiv80039555">So do the hands move together like rowing a boat, or opposite as in peddling a bike?<div><br></div><div>Adam</div><div><br><div><div>On Jun 12, 2011, at 8:19 AM, Charles Butler wrote:</div><br class="yiv80039555Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-size: 12pt; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; "><div><span>Checking the Deit Libras, they move forward together like jumping rope and that's not what the Brincar(4) has.</span></div><div><span><br></span></div><div><span>Charles</span></div><div><br></div><div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; "><div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: times, serif; "><font size="2" face="Arial"><hr size="1"><b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Charles Butler <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:chazzer3332000@YAHOO.COM" target="_blank"
href="mailto:chazzer3332000@YAHOO.COM">chazzer3332000@YAHOO.COM</a>><br><b><span style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU" target="_blank" href="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU">SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU</a><br><b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Sunday, June 12, 2011 10:57 AM<br><b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: Trying to read this sign - Query for users of LIBRAS<br></font><br>
<div id="yiv80039555"><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-size: 12pt; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; "><div><span>I will add yours to the sign puddle.</span></div><div><span><br></span></div><div><span>Also look at Brincar(4). The hands move in bicycle wheel, I know, but whoever wrote this sign misinterpreted the circles so one goes back, one goes forward (not easily possible to do as your brain has to work in opposite directions. I tried to fix the signing, but the editorial connection for me doesn't seem to work (AGAIN). I can get into the signs to add sign spelling or words, but not to correct the signs now.</span></div><div><span><br></span></div><div><span>Charles</span></div><div><span><br></span></div><div><span><br></span></div><div style="margin:0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;font:12.0px Helvetica;"><img alt="image.php.png"></div><div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: arial, helvetica,
sans-serif; "><div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: times, serif; "><font size="2" face="Arial"><hr size="1"><b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Adam Frost <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:icemandeaf@GMAIL.COM" target="_blank" href="mailto:icemandeaf@GMAIL.COM">icemandeaf@GMAIL.COM</a>><br><b><span style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU" target="_blank" href="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU">SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU</a><br><b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Sunday, June 12, 2011 10:49 AM<br><b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: Trying to read this sign - Query for users of LIBRAS<br></font><br>
<div id="yiv80039555">Ok. Well, as it is written, I would break my arm trying to rotate it around clockwise. :-) Now that you mentioned it being like the ASL sign for "when", I wonder if the movement is really a wrist circle. I could see this sign being "pregnancy", sort of like showing the "bump" on the classifier of a woman. Maybe this is a more clear writing.<div><br></div><div><img id="yiv80039555e7eec86-2da4-4c24-bc85-1d36277b61b0" height="34" width="60" src="cid:1.4201556542@web125708.mail.ne1.yahoo.com"></div><div><br></div><div>Adam</div><div><br><div><div>On Jun 12, 2011, at 7:36 AM, Charles Butler wrote:</div><br class="yiv80039555Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-size: 12pt; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; "><div><span>yes, it looks similar to me to the ASL "when"</span></div><div><span><br></span></div><div><br></div><div
style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; "><div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: times, serif; "><font size="2" face="Arial"><hr size="1"><b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Adam Frost <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:icemandeaf@GMAIL.COM" target="_blank" href="mailto:icemandeaf@GMAIL.COM">icemandeaf@GMAIL.COM</a>><br><b><span style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU" target="_blank" href="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU">SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU</a><br><b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Sunday, June 12, 2011 10:26 AM<br><b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: Trying to read this sign - Query for users of LIBRAS<br></font><br>
<div id="yiv80039555">Is this the writing you were talking about?<div><br></div><div><img id="yiv80039555e9d0-53d6-4623-bfd0-14e33353d756" height="47" width="85" src="cid:2.4201556542@web125708.mail.ne1.yahoo.com"><br><div><div><br></div><div>Adam</div><div><br></div><div>On Jun 12, 2011, at 6:14 AM, Charles Butler wrote:</div><br class="yiv80039555Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-size: 12pt; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; "><div><div style="margin:0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;font:12.0px Helvetica;"><img alt="image.php.png"></div><div style="margin:0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;font:12.0px Helvetica;"><br></div><div style="margin:0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;font:12.0px Helvetica;"><br></div><div style="margin:0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;font:12.0px Helvetica;">I am trying to understand this sign and something seems to be missing. This is from the LIBRAS
sign puddle for "gravidez" (pregnancy) but I can't figure out exactly what the hands are doing.</div><div style="margin:0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;font:12.0px Helvetica;"><br></div><div style="margin:0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;font:12.0px Helvetica;">If it is a right hand touching the chest, and then rotating to a second position, then I could
understand the movement. </div><div style="margin:0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;font:12.0px Helvetica;"><br></div><div style="margin:0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;font:12.0px Helvetica;">As it is written, it looks as if the right hand is touching the left hand index finger upright and then rotating around in space (half circle) and then touching the lower part of the left hand. </div><div style="margin:0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;font:12.0px Helvetica;"><br></div><div style="margin:0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;font:12.0px Helvetica;">Is this correct? It's not in the published Deit-Libras I have so it's a new sign being added to the system. </div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br></div></div><br><br></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br></div></div><br><br></div></div></div></div><br><br></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br></div></div><br><br></div></div></div></body></html>