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<DIV><STRONG><FONT color=#ffff00 size=6 face=Arial>Hi Steve and
eveyrone,</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT size=6 face=Arial></FONT></STRONG> </DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT color=#ffff00 size=6 face=Arial> It is
working now.</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT size=6 face=Arial></FONT></STRONG> </DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT color=#ffff00 size=6 face=Arial>
Thanks</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT size=6 face=Arial></FONT></STRONG> </DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT color=#ffff00 size=6 face=Arial>
André</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=slevin@SIGNPUDDLE.NET href="mailto:slevin@SIGNPUDDLE.NET">Steve
Slevinski</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU
href="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU">SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU</A>
</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, October 12, 2011 1:29
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Advanced searching for
symbols and their approximate locations</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Hi Val,<BR><BR><BR>On 10/12/11 11:48 AM, Valerie Sutton
wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite=mid:9AD95F7E-FAFA-4197-90E7-D344BAE0A688@signwriting.org
type="cite">
<DIV>Can we say now, that the "Search by Symbols" feature in SignPuddle 1.6,
allows us to:</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>1. search for all the signs that use a specific SignWriting symbol in
SignMaker entries (dictionary entries) and SignText entries (literature
entries)</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>2. search for combinations of symbols</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>3. search for symbols combined with location</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>4. search for exact SignSpellings</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>Yes, yes, yes, and yes.<BR><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite=mid:9AD95F7E-FAFA-4197-90E7-D344BAE0A688@signwriting.org
type="cite">
<DIV>If this is all true, then we can finally say that searches can be
conducted on SignWriting literature documents, which is what linguists have
been asking for, for years -</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>Yes, we can say that real
search is possible with SignWriting documents. <BR><BR>In 2004, there
was a paper presented at Lisbon by Antonio Carlos da Rocha Costa, Gracaliz
Pereira Dimuro, and Juliano Baldez de Freitas. The paper was titled "A
SIGN MATCHING TECHNIQUE TO SUPPORT SEARCHES IN SIGN LANGUAGE TEXTS".
<BR><A class=moz-txt-link-freetext
href="http://www.signwriting.org/archive/docs3/sw0204-Sign-Processing-Brazil.pdf">http://www.signwriting.org/archive/docs3/sw0204-Sign-Processing-Brazil.pdf</A><BR><BR>Although,
not an implementation of their design, the advanced search now available in
SignPuddle addresses the same issues.<BR><BR>Guylhem Aznar discussed this same
issue. He called the slight symbol positioning differences between signs
"Intra-personal variation". He correctly states that:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE><I>Such near-imperceptible variations in the fine positioning
are due to the human manual positioning of the symbols. It is nearly
impossible for two SW signs, even while using the same set of symbols, to
share the exact position for every symbol on the sign canvas : the relative
position of the symbols to the center of the sign
changes.</I><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>He suggested that these variations should be
prevented. I've gone the opposite way and embraced the existence of
slight variations. The signs in SignPuddle Online demonstrate the
variability of the SignWriting script. The advanced searching of
SignPuddle show that these variations are not a problem.<BR><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite=mid:9AD95F7E-FAFA-4197-90E7-D344BAE0A688@signwriting.org
type="cite">
<DIV>I would like to announce this to the Sign Language Linguist LIst
(SLLING) because there are several linguists who have requested this feature
before...</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>Yes, please do. I am very proud of the new
search, both in terms of flexibility and speed.<BR><BR><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite=mid:9AD95F7E-FAFA-4197-90E7-D344BAE0A688@signwriting.org
type="cite">
<DIV>But I also understand that the "Search by Symbol Frequency" feature
does not search on literature in SignText yet - it is only the "Search by
Symbols" feature that can do that so far, is that right?</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>So far, symbol frequency does not include sign
texts. The option will be available
soon.<BR><BR>Regards,<BR>-Steve<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>