<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12pt"><div><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;" lang="EN-GB">"All you need is a well fed dictionary and this
wonderful program. "<br></span></font></div><div><br><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;" lang="EN-GB"></span></font></div><div><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;" lang="EN-GB">What do your dictionaries eat?</span></font></div><div><br><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;" lang="EN-GB"></span></font></div><div><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;" lang="EN-GB">;;grin;; <br></span></font></div><div><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;" lang="EN-GB">cherie<br></span></font></div><div><br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"><div style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"><font size="2" face="Arial"><hr size="1"><b><span
style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Stefan Wöhrmann <stefanwoehrmann@GOOGLEMAIL.COM><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Monday, October 17, 2011 5:46 AM<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> AW: Please help us test SignWriter Studio Beta 5!!<br></font><br>
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<div class="yiv2093927429MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="
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<div class="yiv2093927429MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;" lang="EN-GB">it is interesting to
understand that you agree with my concept that it is necessary to add
information coming from the lips- and tongue movements in order to “understand”
the exact meaning of a given sign. </span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv2093927429MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="
font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;" lang="EN-GB">“....Signs that are the same in the hands and
other movements, differ in the mouthing and make distinctive signs that way. NSL
claims to have no homonyms (two or more signs that look exatly the same but
have different meaning) because of this....” </span></font></div>
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font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;" lang="EN-GB"> </span></font></div>
<div class="yiv2093927429MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="
font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;" lang="EN-GB">Well my invention of Mundbildschrift is not the same
as my set of “Mundbilder in der GebaerdenSchrift” </span></font></div>
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font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;" lang="EN-GB"> </span></font></div>
<div class="yiv2093927429MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="
font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;" lang="EN-GB">Nevertheless – thanks to the studies of Erica Hoffmann
with my students we found out that it is not correct simply to add the letters of
a word (spoken language) next to the sign in order to avoid “Mundbilder”</span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv2093927429MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="
font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;" lang="EN-GB">To my very surprise I had to understand – and this
has been such an amazing experience – that even little deaf children having
no idea of how to write the spoken word – show almost mouth – and tongue
movement patterns that almost look like the same – as a “informed”
signer would perform. </span></font></div>
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font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;" lang="EN-GB"> </span></font></div>
<div class="yiv2093927429MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="
font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;" lang="EN-GB">Mouth movements are part of the usual guessing game
trying to understand from lip-reading. From my actual point of view these
Mundbilder which I defined to stand for special patterns of movements that
might result in specific sounds of a given spoken language come pretty close to
the best representation of what can be seen (!!!) looking at a signing person. </span></font></div>
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font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;" lang="EN-GB"> </span></font></div>
<div class="yiv2093927429MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="
font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;" lang="EN-GB">And you are right – SignPuddle – so far
does not allow to type latin letters – as you could do with the DOS
Program. Did you get the chance to look at the German new softare Delegs? </span></font></div>
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font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;" lang="EN-GB"> </span></font></div>
<div class="yiv2093927429MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="
font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;" lang="EN-GB">Now you get the chance to look for your signs almost
loke in the good old SWDOS –program. </span></font></div>
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font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;" lang="EN-GB"> </span></font></div>
<div class="yiv2093927429MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="
font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;" lang="EN-GB">In addition to that you are able to change the preferred
sign alternative in every document without any problem. You can copy this
specific sign and paste it with this same variation. You can write the best
translation of the signwriting sentence beneath this line and hide or show one
or both lines! This is the perfect tool to support deaf students to improve
their spoken language skills. Just look at the attached gif.</span></font></div>
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font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;" lang="EN-GB"> </span></font></div>
<div class="yiv2093927429MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="
font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;" lang="EN-GB">Our team is still busy, busy, busy to complete our
vision of an almost perfect SignWriting – software program to support
this idea which is the motto of our Editor: “Delegs” = Deutsch
lernen mit GebaerdenSchrift</span></font><span lang="EN-GB">" = learn
German assisted by SignWriting".</span></div>
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<div class="yiv2093927429MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;" lang="EN-GB">All you need is a well fed dictionary and this
wonderful program. </span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv2093927429MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;" lang="EN-GB">All the best </span></font></div>
<div class="yiv2093927429MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;" lang="EN-GB">Stefan </span></font><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;" lang="EN-GB"></span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv2093927429MsoNormal"><b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold;" lang="EN-GB">Von:</span></font></b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;" lang="EN-GB">
SignWriting List: Read and Write Sign Languages
[mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU] <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Im
Auftrag von </span></b>Ingvild Roald<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Gesendet:</span></b> Montag, 17. Oktober 2011
11:15<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">An:</span></b>
SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Betreff:</span></b> Re: Please help us test
SignWrite</span></font><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;">r Studio Beta 5!!</span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv2093927429MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;"><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;">?<br>
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I don't think I can write a 'word' in latin letters beside a mouth in
SignPuddle, can I?<br>
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On the other hand, I DO love the newer software,<br>
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Ingvild </span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv2093927429MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;">Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2011 09:11:06 -0700<br>
From: sutton@SIGNWRITING.ORG<br>
Subject: Re: Please help us test SignWriter Studio Beta 5!!<br>
To: SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU<br>
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SignWriting List</span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv2093927429MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;">October 16, 2011</span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv2093927429MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;">Hi Ingvild and Charles!</span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv2093927429MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;">Two thoughts...</span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv2093927429MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;">First, SignWriter DOS is not past tense - it is not in the
past. I am using it right now, and so can anyone. Just download DOSBOX and
install it:</span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv2093927429MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;">DOSBOX</span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv2093927429MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;">http://www.dosbox.com/</span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv2093927429MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;">Second, software like SignWriter DOS and SignPuddle 1.6,
actually has little to do with how you write. You can write the Norwegian mouth
movements in any style you choose in SignPuddle 1.6 too - software is not a
theory of writing - so there are no limits to your writing styles when it comes
to Mouth Movements in either software program...</span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv2093927429MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;">The only limits to SignWriter DOS usage is that it uses a
smaller symbolset (sss1995) and it cannot write down in vertical columns - but
other than that there are no limitations on your writing styles no matter which
software program you choose -</span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv2093927429MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;">I think what you really are saying is that you enjoyed
writing the old way - and that is fine because you can continue to write the
old way!</span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv2093927429MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;">smile -</span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv2093927429MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;">We are adding a lot of Norwegian signs and documents - have
you notice?I am so happy about it!</span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv2093927429MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;">SignPuddle for Norway</span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv2093927429MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;"><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle/index.html#sgn-NO">http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle/index.html#sgn-NO</a></span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv2093927429MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;">There are close to 3000 signs now in the dictionary and the
literature puddle is growing too - we may need to move some of the individual
signs from the literature puddle to the dictionary puddle, but we will do that
work later - Thank you for all your old SignWriter DOS files, Ingvild! I am
happy to build a sign language corpus in SignPuddle Online for all countries -</span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv2093927429MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;">Val ;-)</span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv2093927429MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;">On Oct 16, 2011, at 5:36 AM, Ingvild Roald wrote:</span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv2093927429MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;"><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;">Another good thing about the
DOS-program was the possibility to write the mouthed 'words' near the mouth,
rather than using the later invention of Mundbildschrift', for those signed
languages that use a lot of mouthing in the signs. Norwegian SL uses mouthing a
lot, especially for nouns. Signs that are the same in the hands and other
movements, differ in the mouthing and make distinctive signs that way. NSL
claims to have no homonyms (two or more signs that look exatly the same but
have different meaning) because of this.<br>
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Ingvild<span class="yiv2093927429ecxapple-converted-space"> </span></span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv2093927429MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;"><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;">Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 19:03:24
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From:<span class="yiv2093927429ecxapple-converted-space"> </span><a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:chazzer3332000@YAHOO.COM" target="_blank" href="mailto:chazzer3332000@YAHOO.COM">chazzer3332000@YAHOO.COM</a><br>
Subject: Re: Please help us test SignWriter Studio Beta 5!!<br>
To:<span class="yiv2093927429ecxapple-converted-space"> </span><a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU" target="_blank" href="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU">SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU</a></span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv2093927429MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;">Part of it is to understand that many educational
systems use Sign Writing to show the grammar comparing a local sign language
to the local spoken language. </span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv2093927429MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;">The useful thing about SW Dos is that one can use
the spoken language, the signed language, and fingerspelling so that one can
compare gramatically, very similar to the current German system. </span></font></div>
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--- On<span class="yiv2093927429ecxapple-converted-space"> </span><b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Thu, 10/13/11, Jonathan<span class="yiv2093927429ecxapple-converted-space"> </span><i><span style="font-style:italic;"><<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:duncanjonathan@YAHOO.CA" target="_blank" href="mailto:duncanjonathan@YAHOO.CA">duncanjonathan@YAHOO.CA</a>></span></i></span></b><span class="yiv2093927429ecxapple-converted-space"> </span>wrote:</span></font></div>
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From: Jonathan <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:duncanjonathan@YAHOO.CA" target="_blank" href="mailto:duncanjonathan@YAHOO.CA">duncanjonathan@YAHOO.CA</a>><br>
Subject: Re: Please help us test SignWriter Studio Beta 5!!<br>
To:<span class="yiv2093927429ecxapple-converted-space"> </span><a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU" target="_blank" href="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU">SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU</a><br>
Date: Thursday, October 13, 2011, 11:09 AM</span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv2093927429MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;">Hi Charles,<br>
I just tried out SignWriter DOS to see exactly what you
are talking about. I see you can type right over a sign if you
want to, below, above and if you type a long sentence the other signs move
over. Is it important for you that the be place on top of the signs
too? Or is it more important for you to be able to write some text,
then some signs, then some text, etc?<br>
Had I realized that so many just LOVE the old SignWriter
Dos I may have gotten permission to duplicate it very faithfully. With
SignWriter Studio some things may be similar but none are identical.
Right now I am trying to get the three main parts of the program working, the
dictionary ( I will soon have a preview version available), the signlist (for
printing lists of signs from the dictionary) and the document.
Once I get everything working again after changing to ISWA 2010 and a new
database, I am interested in implement a keyboard like SignWriter DOS.
But first things first.<br>
The document isn't functional right now. Also it
only deals with vertical columns of writing for the time being. It can
have text above the sign up to the width of the sign, then it wraps onto more
lines. At present there isn't any way of writing just text without a
sign but it shouldn't be too hard to implement. The editing of
the signs is done in a popup box instead of directly in the document like
SignWriter DOS. A lot of thought has been put into it to use the
keyboard but it may need a few more adjustments yet.<br>
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Thank you for sharing this important feature with me and list.<br>
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Jonathan<br>
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<div class="yiv2093927429MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;">Jonathan, What I really want is SignWriter DOS on
a modern system.<br>
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In that program you could interleave written alphabets and sign writing.
Clunky, but effective.<br>
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You could clip signs from a narrative and put them somewhere else.<br>
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It was a true typing system for signing so that you could assemble a sign
by typing on a keyboard not a mouse. Yes, I know that the current encoding
of the ISWA is dependent upon a linking of graphemes and coding
equivalents.<br>
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None of the Studios or other efforts have gone back to actual interleaved
Spoken Language and Signed Language. </span></font><span lang="EN-GB">I
can clip a sign and put it in here<br>
</span><img id="yiv2093927429_x0000_i1027" src="http://www.signbank.org/SignPuddle1.5/glyphogram.php?ksw=AS15a30S15a30S2ea3aS2ea4eS2fb04M30x28S15a30n24xn28S15a309xn28S2ea3a5x3S2ea4en30x3S2fb04n6x22" border="0" height="56" width="60"><span class="yiv2093927429ecxapple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-GB"> </span></span><span lang="EN-GB">, in TEXT, when does THAT come back in a program. </span>I feel
like we are continuing to take a great leap backward. Until one can type or
easily assemble, one can't' send email that is in sign language with a
spoken language. IF Chinese can do it, I am disappointed in every Sign
Writing compiler on the market that can't interleave.<span class="yiv2093927429ecxapple-converted-space"> </span><br>
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Charles Butler<br>
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This is an email program and I can do that, but the SW studio and all other
programs do not do that.<span class="yiv2093927429ecxapple-converted-space"> </span><br>
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Charles Butler<br>
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