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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Hi Yuri, Valerie,
Charles... <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>well – your additional
comments make the difference – big smile! <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>First of all – everybody is
free to write the style he/she feels comfortable with!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Second – if somebody is
interested to make sure that other scribes would agree with his/her concepts of
“How to write a given sign” there is a great chance to sharpen the own
awareness ..<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>In your case – you show a
performance in order to explain why the first spelling is not correct. Perfect!
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Afterwards you perform
the sign you discuss and that is what I focused on. (see attached screenshot)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> Fine with me – no problem
at all – to write a “in your eyes simplified version” <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Looking at the palm of
your right hand ... looking at your “simplified version”.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>On the other hand .. mh
.. is this really “simplified” or irritating. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Reading your second
version – I mumbled kind of “autsch – that hurts” – smile . And in fact it is
very unusual and during a by the way signing of this sign name (woman with long
hair – almost down to the hip) not to be expected that you would keep the hand orientation
all the time. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Now – you ask for a kind
of 45 degrees orientation. I would not vote for that. I would rather do the
other simplified spelling – D-hand shape parallel to the wall even if it is not
100%. – smile - <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>So the idea of this
discussion – “simplified” is not always the easier to read/sign version. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Thank you for sharing
this video – it is fun to discuss spelling issues on the basis of this kind of
video material. And if the “inventor” of this sign name would prefer a different
spelling just invite her to send a different video – with her performance –
smile <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Stefan <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>Von:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
SignWriting List: Read and Write Sign Languages
[mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Im
Auftrag von </span></b>Yuri </span></font><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>Barreto<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Gesendet:</span></b> Dienstag, 25. Oktober
2011 15:14<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>An:</span></b>
SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Betreff:</span></b> Re: AW: (Now yes, you
have the video!) A ortografic correction on Facebook!</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=hps><font size=3 color="#333333" face=Arial><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333;background:whitesmoke'>Perfect</span></font></span><span
class=apple-style-span><font color="#333333" face=Arial><span
style='font-family:Arial;color:#333333;background:whitesmoke'> </span></font></span><span
class=hps><font color="#333333" face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial;
color:#333333;background:whitesmoke'>for</span></font></span><span
class=apple-style-span><font color="#333333" face=Arial><span
style='font-family:Arial;color:#333333;background:whitesmoke'> </span></font></span><span
class=hps><font color="#333333" face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial;
color:#333333;background:whitesmoke'>observing</span></font></span><span
class=apple-style-span><font color="#333333" face=Arial><span
style='font-family:Arial;color:#333333;background:whitesmoke'> </span></font></span><span
class=hps><font color="#333333" face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial;
color:#333333;background:whitesmoke'>the position of the</span></font></span><span
class=apple-style-span><font color="#333333" face=Arial><span
style='font-family:Arial;color:#333333;background:whitesmoke'> </span></font></span><span
class=hps><font color="#333333" face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial;
color:#333333;background:whitesmoke'>hand after the</span></font></span><span
class=apple-style-span><font color="#333333" face=Arial><span
style='font-family:Arial;color:#333333;background:whitesmoke'> </span></font></span><span
class=hps><font color="#333333" face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial;
color:#333333;background:whitesmoke'>downward motion.</span></font></span><span
class=apple-style-span><font color="#333333" face=Arial><span
style='font-family:Arial;color:#333333;background:whitesmoke'> </span></font></span><span
class=hps><font color="#333333" face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial;
color:#333333;background:whitesmoke'>The owner of the</span></font></span><span
class=apple-style-span><font color="#333333" face=Arial><span
style='font-family:Arial;color:#333333;background:whitesmoke'> </span></font></span><span
class=hps><font color="#333333" face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial;
color:#333333;background:whitesmoke'>sign</span></font></span><span
class=apple-style-span><font color="#333333" face=Arial><span
style='font-family:Arial;color:#333333;background:whitesmoke'> </span></font></span><span
class=hps><font color="#333333" face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial;
color:#333333;background:whitesmoke'>described to me</span></font></span><span
class=apple-style-span><font color="#333333" face=Arial><span
style='font-family:Arial;color:#333333;background:whitesmoke'> </span></font></span><span
class=hps><font color="#333333" face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial;
color:#333333;background:whitesmoke'>that the handremained</span></font></span><span
class=apple-style-span><font color="#333333" face=Arial><span
style='font-family:Arial;color:#333333;background:whitesmoke'> </span></font></span><span
class=hps><font color="#333333" face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial;
color:#333333;background:whitesmoke'>parallel to the wall</span></font></span><span
class=apple-style-span><font color="#333333" face=Arial><span
style='font-family:Arial;color:#333333;background:whitesmoke'>.</span></font></span><font
color="#333333" face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial;color:#333333;
background:whitesmoke'><br>
<br>
<span class=hps>In</span><span class=apple-style-span> </span><span
class=hps>fact, even</span><span class=apple-style-span> </span><span
class=hps>in the video</span><span class=apple-style-span> </span><span
class=hps>she sent</span><span class=apple-style-span> </span><span
class=hps>to me,</span><span class=apple-style-span> </span><span
class=hps>making the sign</span><span class=apple-style-span> </span><span
class=hps>of it</span><span class=apple-style-span>, you could see </span><span
class=hps>clearly that there was</span><span class=apple-style-span> </span><span
class=hps>an</span><span class=apple-style-span> </span><span class=hps>inclination
of</span><span class=apple-style-span> </span><span class=hps>45°,</span><span
class=apple-style-span> </span><span class=hps>ie, notparallel to the</span><span
class=apple-style-span> </span><span class=hps>floor or</span><span
class=apple-style-span> </span><span class=hps>parallel to the</span><span
class=apple-style-span> </span><span class=hps>wall.</span><br>
<br>
<span class=hps>From the</span><span class=apple-style-span> </span><span
class=hps>description of it</span><span class=apple-style-span>, </span><span
class=hps>and</span><span class=apple-style-span> </span><span
class=hps>irresistible</span><span class=apple-style-span> </span><span
class=hps>linguistic economy</span><span class=apple-style-span>, I
chose </span><span class=hps>eeping</span><span class=apple-style-span> </span><span
class=hps>the description</span><span class=apple-style-span> </span><span
class=hps>literally,</span><span class=apple-style-span> </span><span
class=hps>so</span><span class=apple-style-span> </span><span class=hps>facilitating</span><span
class=apple-style-span> </span><span class=hps>the simplified version.</span><br>
<br>
<span class=hps>---</span><br>
<br>
<span class=hps>I think</span><span class=apple-style-span> </span><span
class=hps>these questions</span><span class=apple-style-span> </span><span
class=hps>fantastic</span><span class=apple-style-span> </span><span
class=hps>spelling</span><span class=apple-style-span>, </span><span
class=hps>and I love</span><span class=apple-style-span> </span><span
class=hps>it!</span><br>
<br>
<span class=hps>On the other</span><span class=apple-style-span> </span><span
class=hps>hand, I think</span><span class=apple-style-span> </span><span
class=hps>the deaf</span><span class=apple-style-span> </span><span
class=hps>need</span><span class=apple-style-span> </span><span
class=hps>a</span><span class=apple-style-span> </span><span class=hps>fast</span><span
class=apple-style-span> </span><span class=hps>system written</span><span
class=apple-style-span>, and</span><span class=hps>that it is</span><span
class=apple-style-span> </span><span class=hps>more practical.</span><span
class=apple-style-span> </span><span class=hps>Signwriting</span><span
class=apple-style-span> </span><span class=hps>is</span><span
class=apple-style-span> </span><span class=hps>a</span><span
class=apple-style-span> </span><span class=hps>powerful tool</span><span
class=apple-style-span> </span><span class=hps>by</span><span
class=apple-style-span> </span><span class=hps>which</span><span
class=apple-style-span> </span><span class=hps>I see</span><span
class=apple-style-span> </span><span class=hps>as well as in</span><span
class=apple-style-span> </span><span class=hps>writing</span><span
class=apple-style-span> </span><span class=hps>an</span><span
class=apple-style-span> </span><span class=hps>oral language,</span><span
class=apple-style-span> </span><span class=hps>allowing the recording of</span><span
class=apple-style-span> </span><span class=hps>"anything</span><span
class=apple-style-span>" </span><span class=hps>thought</span><span
class=apple-style-span>.</span><br>
<br>
<span class=hps>Although</span><span class=apple-style-span> </span><span
class=hps>chemical,</span><span class=apple-style-span> </span><span
class=hps>but with</span><span class=apple-style-span> </span><span
class=hps>some knowledge of</span><span class=apple-style-span> </span><span
class=hps>linguistics</span><span class=apple-style-span>, I </span><span
class=hps>thinkthat even</span><span class=apple-style-span> </span><span
class=hps>a</span><span class=apple-style-span> </span><span class=hps>handshape</span><span
class=apple-style-span> </span><span class=hps>is</span><span
class=apple-style-span> </span><span class=hps>difficult</span><span
class=apple-style-span> </span><span class=hps>to make</span><span
class=apple-style-span> </span><span class=hps>parallel to the wall</span><span
class=apple-style-span> </span><span class=hps>as in this case</span><span
class=apple-style-span> </span><span class=hps>we have discussed,</span><span
class=apple-style-span> </span><span class=hps>sometimes</span><span
class=apple-style-span> </span><span class=hps>ends up
being"accepted"</span><span class=apple-style-span> </span><span
class=hps>write what</span><span class=apple-style-span> </span><span
class=hps>you</span><span class=apple-style-span> </span><span
class=hps>do not necessarily</span><span class=apple-style-span> </span><span
class=hps>oralize</span><span class=apple-style-span> </span><span
class=hps>/</span><span class=apple-style-span> </span><span class=hps>signal</span><span
class=apple-style-span>.</span><br>
<br>
<span class=hps>For example</span><span class=apple-style-span>:</span><br>
<br>
<span class=hps>In</span><span class=apple-style-span> </span><span
class=hps>Brazilian Portuguese,</span><span class=apple-style-span> </span><span
class=hps>the word</span><span class=apple-style-span> </span><span
class=hps>now</span><span class=apple-style-span> </span><span
class=hps>V</span><span class=apple-style-span>-OCE </span><span
class=hps>(you</span><span class=apple-style-span>, in English)</span><span
class=hps>can be found</span><span class=apple-style-span> </span><span
class=hps>written as</span><span class=apple-style-span> </span><span
class=hpsatn>"</span><span class=apple-style-span>VC" </span><span
class=hps>in the</span><span class=apple-style-span> </span><span
class=hps>online network</span><span class=apple-style-span>, </span><span
class=hps>although</span><span class=apple-style-span> </span><span
class=hps>the pronunciation</span><span class=apple-style-span> </span><span
class=hps>to be "faithful</span><span class=apple-style-span>" to
the </span><span class=hps>written</span><span class=apple-style-span> </span><span
class=hps>rules</span><span class=apple-style-span>.</span></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=hps><font size=3 color="#333333" face=Arial><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333;background:whitesmoke'>This</span></font></span><span
class=apple-style-span><font color="#333333" face=Arial><span
style='font-family:Arial;color:#333333;background:whitesmoke'> </span></font></span><span
class=hps><font color="#333333" face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial;
color:#333333;background:whitesmoke'>would be</span></font></span><span
class=apple-style-span><font color="#333333" face=Arial><span
style='font-family:Arial;color:#333333;background:whitesmoke'> </span></font></span><span
class=hps><font color="#333333" face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial;
color:#333333;background:whitesmoke'>a</span></font></span><span
class=apple-style-span><font color="#333333" face=Arial><span
style='font-family:Arial;color:#333333;background:whitesmoke'> </span></font></span><span
class=hps><font color="#333333" face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial;
color:#333333;background:whitesmoke'>parallel between</span></font></span><span
class=apple-style-span><font color="#333333" face=Arial><span
style='font-family:Arial;color:#333333;background:whitesmoke'> </span></font></span><span
class=hpsatn><font color="#333333" face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial;
color:#333333;background:whitesmoke'>"</span></font></span><span
class=apple-style-span><font color="#333333" face=Arial><span
style='font-family:Arial;color:#333333;background:whitesmoke'>Option
1" </span></font></span><span class=hpsatn><font color="#333333"
face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial;color:#333333;background:whitesmoke'>and
"</span></font></span><span class=apple-style-span><font color="#333333"
face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial;color:#333333;background:whitesmoke'>Option
2".</span></font></span><font color="#333333" face=Arial><span
style='font-family:Arial;color:#333333;background:whitesmoke'><br>
<br>
<span class=hps>Still,</span><span class=apple-style-span> </span><span
class=hps>a few words</span><span class=apple-style-span> </span><span
class=hps>of our</span><span class=apple-style-span> </span><span
class=hps>Languages</span><span class=apple-style-span> </span><span
class=hps>(Portuguese</span><span class=apple-style-span>) has </span><span
class=hps>peculiarpronunciations</span><span class=apple-style-span>. </span><span
class=hps>People with</span><span class=apple-style-span> </span><span
class=hps>lower</span><span class=apple-style-span> </span><span
class=hps>socioeconomic statusgenerally do not</span><span
class=apple-style-span> </span><span class=hps>pronounce the letter</span><span
class=apple-style-span> </span><span class=hps>"d" in</span><span
class=apple-style-span> </span><span class=hps>gerunds</span><span
class=apple-style-span> </span><span class=hps>...</span><span
class=apple-style-span> </span><span class=hps>In</span><span
class=apple-style-span> </span><span class=hps>my state</span><span
class=apple-style-span>,</span><span class=hps>Bahia</span><span
class=apple-style-span> </span><span class=hps>and need not be</span><span
class=apple-style-span> </span><span class=hps>economically
disadvantaged</span><span class=apple-style-span>, </span><span
class=hps>haha</span><span class=apple-style-span> </span><span
class=hps>...</span><span class=apple-style-span> </span><span
class=hps>It isa</span><span class=apple-style-span> </span><span
class=hps>common</span><span class=apple-style-span> </span><span
class=hpsatn>word like "</span><span class=apple-style-span><b><i><span
style='font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'>Fazen</span></i></b><i><span
style='font-style:italic'>d<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>o</span></b></span></i>" </span><span
class=hps>be pronounced</span><span class=apple-style-span> </span><span
class=hpsatn>"</span><span class=apple-style-span><b><i><span
style='font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'>Fazeno</span></i></b>",
among </span><span class=hps>other examples</span><span
class=apple-style-span>, which I think </span><span class=hps>fits</span><span
class=apple-style-span> </span><span class=hpsatn>"</span><span
class=apple-style-span>linguistically </span><span class=hps>speaking"on
the question of</span><span class=apple-style-span> </span><span
class=hps>how to represent the</span><span class=apple-style-span> </span><span
class=hps>second</span><span class=apple-style-span> </span><span
class=hps>handshape</span><span class=apple-style-span> </span><span
class=hps>sointerplanar</span><span class=apple-style-span> </span><span
class=hpsatn0>(</span><span class=apple-style-span>neologism?! </span><span
class=hps>=))</span><span class=apple-style-span> </span><span
class=hps>.</span></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><font size=3 color="#333333"
face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333;
background:whitesmoke'>Fazendo (Brazilian portuguese) = Doing (English)</span></font></span><font
color="#333333" face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial;color:#333333;
background:whitesmoke'><br>
<br>
<span class=hps>---</span><br>
<br>
<span class=hps>I mean</span><span class=apple-style-span> </span><span
class=hps>that I am</span><span class=apple-style-span> </span><span
class=hps>very grateful!</span><br>
<br>
<span class=hps>Some</span><span class=apple-style-span> </span><span
class=hps>colleagues</span><span class=apple-style-span> </span><span
class=hps>of the</span><span class=apple-style-span> </span><span
class=hps>"area</span><span class=apple-style-span> </span><span
class=hps>of deafness</span><span class=apple-style-span>" </span><span
class=hps>think</span><span class=apple-style-span> </span><span
class=hps>SW isunattainable</span><span class=apple-style-span>.</span><br>
<br>
<span class=hps>Talk directly</span><span class=apple-style-span> </span><span
class=hps>with you</span><span class=apple-style-span>, </span><span
class=hps>"think</span><span class=apple-style-span> </span><span
class=hps>SW"</span><span class=apple-style-span> </span><span
class=hps>invrível</span><span class=apple-style-span> </span><span
class=hps>and</span><span class=apple-style-span> </span><span
class=hps>is</span><span class=apple-style-span> </span><span class=hps>extremely
motivating</span><span class=apple-style-span>! </span><span class=hps>It's
like reading</span><span class=apple-style-span> </span><span class=hps>a</span><span
class=apple-style-span> </span><span class=hps>scientific paper</span><span
class=apple-style-span>, </span><span class=hps>read something</span><span
class=apple-style-span>,</span><span class=hps>get a little confused</span><span
class=apple-style-span> </span><span class=hps>or curious about</span><span
class=apple-style-span> </span><span class=hps>something and then</span><span
class=apple-style-span> </span><span class=hps>make a call to</span><span
class=apple-style-span> </span><span class=hps>the author of the</span><span
class=apple-style-span> </span><span class=hps>text!</span><span
class=apple-style-span> </span><span class=hps>Haha</span><span
class=apple-style-span> </span><span class=hps>...</span><br>
<br>
<span class=hps>---</span><br>
<br>
<span class=hps>I could</span><span class=apple-style-span> </span><span
class=hps>promote</span><span class=apple-style-span> </span><span
class=hps>this discussion</span><span class=apple-style-span> </span><span
class=hps>on my</span><span class=apple-style-span> </span><span
class=hps>Facebook profile</span><span class=apple-style-span>?</span><br>
<br>
<span class=hps>As</span><span class=apple-style-span> </span><span
class=hps>a</span><span class=apple-style-span> </span><span class=hps>way
of stimulating</span><span class=apple-style-span>, </span><span
class=hps>and even</span><span class=apple-style-span> </span><span
class=hps>agreagar</span><span class=apple-style-span> </span><span
class=hps>more interested</span><span class=apple-style-span> </span><span
class=hps>in studies of the</span><span class=apple-style-span> </span><span
class=hps>SW.</span><br>
<br>
<span class=hps>And</span><span class=apple-style-span> </span><span
class=hps>people</span><span class=apple-style-span> </span><span
class=hps>see</span><span class=apple-style-span> </span><span
class=hps>that and</span><span class=apple-style-span> </span><span
class=hps>falalrem</span><span class=apple-style-span>: Wow, </span><span
class=hps>"they"</span><span class=apple-style-span> </span><span
class=hps>really exist</span><span class=apple-style-span>!</span><br>
<br>
<span class=hps>---</span><br>
<br>
<span class=hps>A big hug</span><span class=apple-style-span>!</span></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color="#333333" face=Arial><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333'>Yuri</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'><br>
</span></font><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>--- Em <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>ter, 25/10/11,
Valerie Sutton <i><span style='font-style:italic'><sutton@SIGNWRITING.ORG></span></i></span></b>
escreveu:</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><br>
De: Valerie Sutton <sutton@SIGNWRITING.ORG><br>
Assunto: Re: AW: (Now yes, you have the video!) A ortografic correction on
Facebook!<br>
Para: SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU<br>
Data: Terça-feira, 25 de Outubro de 2011, 3:55<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>SignWriting List<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>October 24, 2011<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>The second spelling in the video is a shortened version and
the second hand position isn't even written in the second spelling, which
suggests to me that the writer feels that it is supposed to be the same
handshape and same palm facing in both cases, even though he may not have
signed it that way - Just a thought - it is possible that the person who has
the sign name wants it to be signed the way it is written ... but it is hard
to sign it that way!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>So Yuri, is the second handshape supposed to be parallel
to the Floor or the Wall?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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font-family:Arial'><img width=446 height=329
id=yiv6322669590f4dad22-7efc-41d4-874e-7d9eb615b9dc
src="cid:image001.jpg@01CC9333.E1617EE0"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>On Oct 24, 2011, at 12:31 AM, Stefan Wöhrmann wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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font-family:Arial'><br>
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<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Hi Yuri,</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>yes I liked to look at
your video too. ... and I love all sorts of SW spelling discussions. Part of
our SW tests is to search for spelling-mistakes in
GebaerdenSchrift-documents. This is fun and is a wonderful option to improve
the skills of a SignWriting scribe. As I understand your video you are
discussing the spelling of a name-sign – The letter “D” for “Danielle”
and then focus on the long hair. Right?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Well another comment –
if you are interested – smile L.I.F.E</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=yiv632266959hps><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN style='font-size:12.0pt'>When I</span></font></span><span
class=yiv632266959apple-converted-space><span lang=EN> </span></span><span
class=yiv632266959hps><span lang=EN>look at</span></span><span
class=yiv632266959apple-converted-space><span lang=EN> </span></span><span
class=yiv632266959hps><span lang=EN>your performance</span></span><span
class=yiv632266959apple-converted-space><span lang=EN> </span></span><span
class=yiv632266959hps><span lang=EN>and in consideration</span></span><span
class=yiv632266959apple-converted-space><span lang=EN> </span></span><span
class=yiv632266959hps><span lang=EN>of the</span></span><span
class=yiv632266959apple-converted-space><span lang=EN> </span></span><span
class=yiv632266959hps><span lang=EN>second touch</span></span><span
class=yiv632266959apple-converted-space><span lang=EN> </span></span><span
class=yiv632266959hps><span lang=EN>contact</span></span><span
class=yiv632266959apple-converted-space><span lang=EN> </span></span><span
class=yiv632266959hps><span lang=EN>at waist level</span></span><span
lang=EN>, I<span class=yiv632266959apple-converted-space> </span><span
class=yiv632266959hps>would</span><span
class=yiv632266959apple-converted-space> </span><span
class=yiv632266959hps>prefer a</span><span
class=yiv632266959apple-converted-space> </span><span
class=yiv632266959hps>different notation – the final D-hand with the gap.</span></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=yiv632266959hps><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN style='font-size:12.0pt'>Stefan</span></font></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>On Oct 23, 2011, at 6:34 PM, Yuri Barreto wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=yiv632266959hps><font size=3 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;background:whitesmoke'>Hello
friends</span></font></span><span class=yiv632266959><font face=Arial><span
style='font-family:Arial;background:whitesmoke'>!</span></font></span><font
face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial;background:whitesmoke'><br>
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<span class=yiv632266959hps>A</span><span
class=yiv632266959apple-style-span> </span><span
class=yiv632266959hps>Sunday</span><span
class=yiv632266959apple-style-span> </span><span
class=yiv632266959hps>rest</span><span class=yiv632266959>, but</span><span
class=yiv632266959apple-style-span> </span><span
class=yiv632266959hps>Facebook</span><span
class=yiv632266959apple-style-span> </span><span
class=yiv632266959hps>has emerged</span><span
class=yiv632266959apple-style-span> </span><span
class=yiv632266959hps>as</span><span class=yiv632266959apple-style-span> </span><span
class=yiv632266959hps>an</span><span class=yiv632266959apple-style-span> </span><span
class=yiv632266959hps>interesting thingwas reviewing</span><span
class=yiv632266959apple-style-span> </span><span
class=yiv632266959hps>the spelling of</span><span
class=yiv632266959apple-style-span> </span><span
class=yiv632266959hps>a</span><span class=yiv632266959apple-style-span> </span><span
class=yiv632266959hps>sign written</span><span
class=yiv632266959apple-style-span> </span><span
class=yiv632266959hps>as a way to</span><span
class=yiv632266959apple-style-span> </span><span
class=yiv632266959hps>encouragea</span><span
class=yiv632266959apple-style-span> </span><span
class=yiv632266959hps>deaf</span><span
class=yiv632266959apple-style-span> </span><span
class=yiv632266959hps>friend and</span><span
class=yiv632266959apple-style-span> </span><span
class=yiv632266959hps>other friends</span><span class=yiv632266959>,
playing</span><span class=yiv632266959apple-style-span> </span><span
class=yiv632266959hps>SW.</span><br>
<br>
<span class=yiv632266959hps>You can laugh</span><span class=yiv632266959>!</span><br>
<br>
<span class=yiv632266959apple-style-span><a
href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qY_73oWHbsE" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qY_73oWHbsE</a></span><br>
<br>
<span class=yiv632266959hps>I know</span><span
class=yiv632266959apple-style-span> </span><span
class=yiv632266959hps>that "someone"</span><span
class=yiv632266959apple-style-span> </span><span
class=yiv632266959hps>loves this</span><span
class=yiv632266959apple-style-span> </span><span
class=yiv632266959hpsyiv1147494716atn>sort of thing "</span><span
class=yiv632266959>ephemeral"!</span></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span class=yiv632266959hps>Hugs</span></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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