<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; background-color: rgb(245, 245, 245); "><span class="hps">Right,</span> <span class="hps">Charles!</span><br><br><span class="hps">The question is how</span> <span class="hps">is the</span> <span class="hps">handshape</span> <span class="hps">after the</span> <span class="hps">downward motion.</span><br><br><span class="hps">Do not know how</span> <span class="hps">to</span> <span class="hps">represent a hand</span> <span class="hps">in "D</span><span class="">" that is</span> <span class="hps">intermediate</span><span class="hps">between the planes of</span> <span class="hps">wall and</span> <span class="hps">floor.</span><br><br><span class="hps">If there is any</span> <span
 class="hps">consideration of these</span> <span class="hps">in any of</span> <span class="hps">Forus</span><span class="">, or</span> <span class="hps">a lesson</span><span class="">,</span> <span class="hps">I have not seen</span><span class="">.</span><br><br><span class="hps">Please</span><span class="">, my friend,</span> <span class="hps">you read</span> <span class="hps">the considerations</span> <span class="hps">put</span> <span class="hps">the</span> <span class="hps">latest</span><span class="hps atn">e-</span><span class="">mail</span><span class="">, responding to</span> <span class="hps">Valerie</span> <span class="hps">and</span> <span class="hps">Stefan.</span><br><br><span class="hps">hug</span></span><br><br>--- Em <b>ter, 25/10/11, Charles Butler <i><chazzer3332000@YAHOO.COM></i></b> escreveu:<br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left:
 5px; padding-left: 5px;"><br>De: Charles Butler <chazzer3332000@YAHOO.COM><br>Assunto: Re: AW: (Now yes, you have the video!) A ortografic correction on Facebook!<br>Para: SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU<br>Data: Terça-feira, 25 de Outubro de 2011, 10:49<br><br><div id="yiv2076098659"><table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0"><tbody><tr><td valign="top" style="font:inherit;">The video doesn't seem to be talking to the sign spelling that is actually displayed at all.<div><br></div><div>Watching the video, he seems to be talking about a signing with the left hand across the body where as either of these options is the right hand on the right side of the body. </div><div><br></div><div>Opcao (Option) 1 or 2 are both the same, one is more streamlined than the other but it is still the right hand with the right index finger touching on the cheek and moving down. </div><div><br></div><div><br>Charles Butler<br>
chazzer3332000@yahoo.com<br>
240-764-5748<br>
Clear writing moves business forward.<br><br>--- On <b>Tue, 10/25/11, Valerie Sutton <i><sutton@SIGNWRITING.ORG></i></b> wrote:<br><blockquote style="border-left:2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255);margin-left:5px;padding-left:5px;"><br>From: Valerie Sutton <sutton@SIGNWRITING.ORG><br>Subject: Re: AW: (Now yes, you have the video!) A ortografic correction on Facebook!<br>To: SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU<br>Date: Tuesday, October 25, 2011, 1:55 AM<br><br><div id="yiv2076098659"><base><div>SignWriting List<div>October 24, 2011</div><div><br></div><div>The second spelling in the video is a shortened version and the second hand position isn't even written in the second spelling, which suggests to me that the writer feels that it is supposed to be the same handshape and same palm facing in both cases, even though he may not have signed it that way - Just a thought - it is possible that the person who has the sign name wants it to be signed the way
 it is written ... but it is hard to sign it that way!</div><div><br></div><div>So Yuri, is the second handshape supposed to be parallel to the Floor or the Wall?</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><img height="329" width="446" id="yiv2076098659f4dad22-7efc-41d4-874e-7d9eb615b9dc" src="cid:1.1398518481@web161302.mail.bf1.yahoo.com"></div><div><br><div><div>On Oct 24, 2011, at 12:31 AM, Stefan Wöhrmann wrote:</div><br class="yiv2076098659Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div lang="DE"><div class="yiv2076098659Section1" style=""><div style="margin-top:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-left:0cm;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman';"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;">Hi Yuri,</span></font></div><div style="margin-top:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-left:0cm;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman';"><font
 size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;">  </span></font></div><div style="margin-top:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-left:0cm;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman';"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;">yes I liked to look at your video too. ... and I love all sorts of SW spelling discussions. Part of our SW tests is to search for spelling-mistakes in  GebaerdenSchrift-documents. This is fun and is a wonderful option to improve the skills of a SignWriting scribe. As I understand your video you are discussing the spelling of a name-sign – The letter “D”  for “Danielle” and then focus on the long hair. Right?</span></font></div><div style="margin-top:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-left:0cm;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman';"><font size="2"
 color="navy" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;">Well another comment – if you are interested – smile  L.I.F.E</span></font></div><div style="margin-top:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-left:0cm;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman';"><span class="yiv2076098659hps"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span lang="EN" style="font-size:12pt;">When I</span></font></span><span lang="EN"><span class="yiv2076098659Apple-converted-space"> </span><span class="yiv2076098659hps">look at</span><span class="yiv2076098659Apple-converted-space"> </span><span class="yiv2076098659hps">your performance</span><span class="yiv2076098659Apple-converted-space"> </span><span class="yiv2076098659hps">and in consideration</span><span class="yiv2076098659Apple-converted-space"> </span><span class="yiv2076098659hps">of the</span><span
 class="yiv2076098659Apple-converted-space"> </span><span class="yiv2076098659hps">second touch</span><span class="yiv2076098659Apple-converted-space"> </span><span class="yiv2076098659hps">contact</span><span class="yiv2076098659Apple-converted-space"> </span><span class="yiv2076098659hps">at waist level</span>, I<span class="yiv2076098659Apple-converted-space"> </span><span class="yiv2076098659hps">would</span><span class="yiv2076098659Apple-converted-space"> </span><span class="yiv2076098659hps">prefer a</span><span class="yiv2076098659Apple-converted-space"> </span><span class="yiv2076098659hps">different notation – the final D-hand with the gap.</span></span></div><div style="margin-top:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-left:0cm;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman';"><span class="yiv2076098659hps"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span lang="EN" style="font-size:12pt;">
  </span></font></span></div><div style="margin-top:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-left:0cm;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman';"><span class="yiv2076098659hps"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span lang="EN" style="font-size:12pt;">Stefan</span></font></span></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><br><blockquote type="cite"><span class="yiv2076098659Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:separate;font-family:Arial;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;orphans:2;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;widows:2;word-spacing:0px;font-size:medium;"><div lang="DE"><div class="yiv2076098659Section1" style=""><table class="yiv2076098659MsoNormalTable" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tbody><tr><td valign="top" style="padding-top:0cm;padding-right:0cm;padding-bottom:0cm;padding-left:0cm;"><div
 id="yiv2076098659"><div><div><div><div><div style="margin-top:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-left:0cm;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman';"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12pt;">On Oct 23, 2011, at 6:34 PM, Yuri Barreto wrote:</span></font></div></div><div style="margin-top:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-left:0cm;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman';"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12pt;"><br><br></span></font></div><table class="yiv2076098659MsoNormalTable" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tbody><tr><td valign="top" style="padding-top:0cm;padding-right:0cm;padding-bottom:0cm;padding-left:0cm;"><div style="margin-top:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-left:0cm;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman';"><span class="yiv2076098659hps"><font size="3" face="Arial"><span
 style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;background-color:rgb(245, 245, 245);">Hello friends</span></font></span><span class="yiv2076098659"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-family:Arial;background-color:rgb(245, 245, 245);">!</span></font></span><font face="Arial"><span style="font-family:Arial;background-color:rgb(245, 245, 245);"><br><br></span></font><span class="yiv2076098659hps"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-family:Arial;"><span style="background-color:rgb(245, 245, 245);">A</span></span></font></span><span class="yiv2076098659apple-style-span"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-family:Arial;background-color:rgb(245, 245, 245);"> </span></font></span><span class="yiv2076098659hps"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-family:Arial;background-color:rgb(245, 245, 245);">Sunday</span></font></span><span class="yiv2076098659apple-style-span"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-family:Arial;background-color:rgb(245, 245,
 245);"> </span></font></span><span class="yiv2076098659hps"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-family:Arial;background-color:rgb(245, 245, 245);">rest</span></font></span><span class="yiv2076098659"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-family:Arial;background-color:rgb(245, 245, 245);">, but</span></font></span><span class="yiv2076098659apple-style-span"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-family:Arial;background-color:rgb(245, 245, 245);"> </span></font></span><span class="yiv2076098659hps"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-family:Arial;background-color:rgb(245, 245, 245);">Facebook</span></font></span><span class="yiv2076098659apple-style-span"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-family:Arial;background-color:rgb(245, 245, 245);"> </span></font></span><span class="yiv2076098659hps"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-family:Arial;background-color:rgb(245, 245, 245);">has emerged</span></font></span><span
 class="yiv2076098659apple-style-span"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-family:Arial;background-color:rgb(245, 245, 245);"> </span></font></span><span class="yiv2076098659hps"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-family:Arial;background-color:rgb(245, 245, 245);">as</span></font></span><span class="yiv2076098659apple-style-span"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-family:Arial;background-color:rgb(245, 245, 245);"> </span></font></span><span class="yiv2076098659hps"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-family:Arial;background-color:rgb(245, 245, 245);">an</span></font></span><span class="yiv2076098659apple-style-span"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-family:Arial;background-color:rgb(245, 245, 245);"> </span></font></span><span class="yiv2076098659hps"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-family:Arial;background-color:rgb(245, 245, 245);">interesting thingwas reviewing</span></font></span><span
 class="yiv2076098659apple-style-span"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-family:Arial;background-color:rgb(245, 245, 245);"> </span></font></span><span class="yiv2076098659hps"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-family:Arial;background-color:rgb(245, 245, 245);">the spelling of</span></font></span><span class="yiv2076098659apple-style-span"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-family:Arial;background-color:rgb(245, 245, 245);"> </span></font></span><span class="yiv2076098659hps"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-family:Arial;background-color:rgb(245, 245, 245);">a</span></font></span><span class="yiv2076098659apple-style-span"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-family:Arial;background-color:rgb(245, 245, 245);"> </span></font></span><span class="yiv2076098659hps"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-family:Arial;background-color:rgb(245, 245, 245);">sign written</span></font></span><span
 class="yiv2076098659apple-style-span"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-family:Arial;background-color:rgb(245, 245, 245);"> </span></font></span><span class="yiv2076098659hps"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-family:Arial;background-color:rgb(245, 245, 245);">as a way to</span></font></span><span class="yiv2076098659apple-style-span"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-family:Arial;background-color:rgb(245, 245, 245);"> </span></font></span><span class="yiv2076098659hps"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-family:Arial;background-color:rgb(245, 245, 245);">encouragea</span></font></span><span class="yiv2076098659apple-style-span"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-family:Arial;"><span style="background-color:rgb(245, 245, 245);"> </span></span></font></span><span class="yiv2076098659hps"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-family:Arial;background-color:rgb(245, 245, 245);">deaf</span></font></span><span
 class="yiv2076098659apple-style-span"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-family:Arial;background-color:rgb(245, 245, 245);"> </span></font></span><span class="yiv2076098659hps"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-family:Arial;background-color:rgb(245, 245, 245);">friend and</span></font></span><span class="yiv2076098659apple-style-span"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-family:Arial;background-color:rgb(245, 245, 245);"> </span></font></span><span class="yiv2076098659hps"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-family:Arial;background-color:rgb(245, 245, 245);">other friends</span></font></span><span class="yiv2076098659"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-family:Arial;background-color:rgb(245, 245, 245);">, playing</span></font></span><span class="yiv2076098659apple-style-span"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-family:Arial;background-color:rgb(245, 245, 245);"> </span></font></span><span class="yiv2076098659hps"><font
 face="Arial"><span style="font-family:Arial;background-color:rgb(245, 245,
 245);">SW.</span></font></span><font face="Arial"><span style="font-family:Arial;background-color:rgb(245, 245, 245);"><br><br><span class="yiv2076098659hps">You can laugh</span><span class="yiv2076098659">!</span><br><br><span class="yiv2076098659apple-style-span"><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qY_73oWHbsE" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline;">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qY_73oWHbsE</a></span><br><br><span class="yiv2076098659hps">I know</span><span class="yiv2076098659apple-style-span"> </span><span class="yiv2076098659hps">that "someone"</span><span class="yiv2076098659apple-style-span"> </span><span class="yiv2076098659hps">loves this</span><span class="yiv2076098659apple-style-span"> </span><span class="yiv2076098659hpsyiv1147494716atn">sort of thing "</span><span class="yiv2076098659">ephemeral</span></span></font><span class="yiv2076098659"><font face="Arial"><span
 style="font-family:Arial;"><span style="background-color:rgb(245, 245, 245);">"</span><span style="background-color:rgb(245, 245, 245);">!</span></span></font></span></div><div><div style="margin-top:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-left:0cm;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman';"><font size="3" color="#333333" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(51, 51, 51);background-color:rgb(245, 245, 245);"><br><span class="yiv2076098659hps">Hugs</span></span></font><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial;"></span></font></div></div></td></tr></tbody></table></div><div style="margin-top:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-left:0cm;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman';"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12pt;"></span></font></div></div></div></div></td></tr></tbody></table><div
 style="margin-top:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-left:0cm;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman';"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12pt;">  </span></font></div></div></div></span></blockquote></div><br></div></div></div></blockquote></div></td></tr></tbody></table></div></blockquote></td></tr></table>