<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;">The best person to answer this would be Professor Rocha in Brazil. I know longer have a contact. Perhaps Fernando Capovilla can inquire. <br><br>Charles Butler<br>
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Clear writing moves business forward.<br><br>--- On <b>Thu, 11/10/11, Stefan Wöhrmann <i><stefanwoehrmann@GOOGLEMAIL.COM></i></b> wrote:<br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"><br>From: Stefan Wöhrmann <stefanwoehrmann@GOOGLEMAIL.COM><br>Subject: AW: Query - Duplication arc<br>To: SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU<br>Date: Thursday, November 10, 2011, 1:36 PM<br><br><div id="yiv1953563540">




 

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<p class="yiv1953563540MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="
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you want to do with your tongue –but if I assume to move it from the
right </span></font><span lang="EN-GB">punched out cheek to the opposite one
several times – I  would prefer a different spelling. </span></p> 

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<p class="yiv1953563540MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;" lang="EN-GB">I am interested in your opinion Valerie. Is it your
understanding that both spelling describe the same performance? I would not
think so. </span></font></p> 

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<p class="yiv1953563540MsoNormal"><b><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold;">Von:</span></font></b><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;"> SignWriting
List: Read and Write Sign Languages [mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU] <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Im Auftrag von </span></b>Valerie Sutton<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Gesendet:</span></b> Donnerstag, 10. November
2011 18:57<br>
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SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Betreff:</span></b> Re: Query - Duplication
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<p class="yiv1953563540MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="
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<p class="yiv1953563540MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="
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  arc work for a non-manual sign? </span></font></p> 
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  This is Roubarse from the LIBRAS puddle. The tongue sweeps from one punched
  out cheek to the opposite one several times for this sign for
  "robbed" </span></font></p> 
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  <br>
  Charles Butler<br>
  <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:chazzer3332000@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="/mc/compose?to=chazzer3332000@yahoo.com">chazzer3332000@yahoo.com</a><br>
  240-764-5748<br>
  Clear writing moves business forward.</span></font></p> 
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<p class="yiv1953563540MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="
font-size:12.0pt;">Yes. It does. It means you do the right side first in your example,
because we are reading vertically top sign first...and then the left side
happens second in your diagram - Attached is information about the
dynamics symbol called "Un-Even Alternating Dynamics" ...</span></font></p> 

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<p class="yiv1953563540MsoNormal"><font color="#179250" face="Arial" size="1"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#179250;">SignWriting
Encyclopedia Projects</span></font></p> 

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<p class="yiv1953563540MsoNormal"><font color="#179250" face="Arial" size="1"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#179250;">Writing Encyclopedias
in Sign Languages</span></font></p> 

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<p class="yiv1953563540MsoNormal"><font color="#179250" face="Arial" size="1"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#179250;">SignWriting Sponsors
Forum</span></font></p> 

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<p class="yiv1953563540MsoNormal"><font color="#179250" face="Arial" size="1"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#179250;">Help Educational
Non-Profit Organization</span></font></p> 

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<p class="yiv1953563540MsoNormal"><font color="#179250" face="Arial" size="1"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#179250;">SignWriting Shop</span></font></p> 

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Services</span></font></p> 

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<p class="yiv1953563540MsoNormal"><font color="#179250" face="Arial" size="1"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#179250;">Deaf Action Committee
For SignWriting</span></font></p> 

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Movement Writing</span></font></p> 

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nonprofit organization</span></font></p> 

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CA, 92038, USA</span></font></p> 

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 Skype: valeriesutton</span></font></p> 

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<p class="yiv1953563540MsoNormal"><font color="#179250" face="Arial" size="1"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#179250;">SignWriting on Twitter</span></font></p> 

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<p class="yiv1953563540MsoNormal"><u><font color="#179250" face="Arial" size="1"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#179250;"><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://twitter.com/signwriting">http://youtube.com/signwriting</a></span></font></u><font color="#179250" face="Arial" size="1"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:#179250;"></span></font></p> 

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