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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt'>“There is a second way of writing this, but if you are
happy with this I am too …smile...” – <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Well I agree – with a tiny difference – I would flip
the curved baby finger in position 2 (palm to the left and back of hand to the
right) <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> SignWriting
List: Read and Write Sign Languages [mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>Im Auftrag von </span></b>Valerie Sutton<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Gesendet:</span></b> Dienstag, 15. November
2011 19:40<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>An:</span></b>
SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Betreff:</span></b> Re: News handshapes in
Brazilian Sign Language (LSB/Libras)</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>SignWriting List<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>November 15, 2011<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Thank you for the attached photos and suggestions for hand symbols. As
you know, you are welcome to construct the hand symbols as they are needed,
within the ISWA 2010. If you are finding confusions in writing certain hand
symbols that are in the ISWA 2010, of course it is good that you tell us, and
go right ahead and do what you feel is best… Meanwhile others around the world
are already using the ISWA 2010 as it is, so it is not possible for us to stop
everyone from writing the way they choose, but I am fully in support of your
efforts to improve your writing of your sign languages…<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>So in this discussion, I am only observing what you are telling us…but
not standing in judgement, since I have learned through experience that the
hand symbols will never be finished. There are too many possible variations of
hand positions and palm facings, for us to have ALL of them for writing every
sign language in the world…so please know I am happy that you are sharing with
us, and if we can read what you wrote, that is all that matters...<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Regarding Picture 1 below, with the Index Finger and Little Finger bent
- I know other sign languages need this hand symbol too. And I can read how you
constructed the symbols. So this fine. I can read it. There is a second way of
writing this, but if you are happy with this I am too …smile...<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>On Nov 12, 2011, at 9:50 AM, Madson Barreto wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><font size=3 color=black
face=Arial><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>Please look these pictures of handshapes. Note that for each one
these we have a suggestion of writing in others handshapes.<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><font
size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><font size=3 color=black
face=Arial><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'> <u1:p></u1:p></span></font><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face=Arial><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>- The picture “1” is the union of 01-01-007 (ISWA code) and
01-06-019;<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><font size=3 color=black
face=Arial><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>- The picture “2” rememb me 01-08-018;<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><font
size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><font size=3 color=black
face=Arial><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>- The picture “4” is the union of handshapes 01-01-003 and
01-05-008. It seems with 01-01-003.<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><font size=2
color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><font size=3 color=black
face=Arial><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>- The picture “5” is the union of 01-06-013 [ I ] and 01-10-004
[A]. The handshape “5” is very alike to the 01-06-021 [Y]. Here in Brazil
usually use it but it is very seems with 01-06-021 [Y]. I see that many people
use it in dactylology (spelling) 01-10-004 for [A] and 01-09-019 for [G]. The
handshape 01-06-021 is a different picture of “5”.<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><font
size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><font size=3 color=black
face=Arial><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'> <u1:p></u1:p></span></font><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face=Arial><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'> <u1:p></u1:p></span></font><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><font size=3 color=black
face=Arial><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>We intent include the handshape 1,2,3,4 and 5 them in ISWA and
disclose this here in Brazil for use of the 01-09-019 and 01-10-004, stop using
01-09-018 and 01-10-003 because they cause confusion in the writing of
handshape “5”.<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face=Arial><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'> <u1:p></u1:p></span></font><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><font size=3 color=black
face=Arial><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>Eagerly await your reply,</span></font><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face=Arial><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black;font-weight:bold'>Madson and Raquel Barreto</span></font></b><font
size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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