<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><div><div><span class="Apple-style-span"><font class="Apple-style-span" size="2">Hello Valerie and Stefan,</font></span></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="2"><br></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="2">Thank you very much for the posts and explanations.</font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="2">I will use writing with two fingers bent, with the little finger out as illustrated.<br></font></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span"><font class="Apple-style-span" size="2"><br></font></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span"><font class="Apple-style-span" size="2">Regards,</font></span></div></div><div style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; "><b style="font-size: 13px; "><br></b></div><div style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; "><b
style="font-size: 13px; ">Madson Barreto </b><br></div><div style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; "><font class="Apple-style-span" size="2"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><font><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>----------------------------------------------------------</div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: medium; ">SignWriting List</span><div style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: medium; ">November 24, 2011<br><div><br></div><div>Hello Madson and Stefan -</div><div>Thanks to you both for the good suggestions…</div><div><br></div><div>I like both of your ways of writing this hand symbol - I can read both of them clearly because it is obvious in both versions that:</div><div><br></div><div>1. the two fingers bend and…</div><div><br></div><div>2. the root of the symbol is a tight fist</div><div><br></div><div>There are actually
two other ways that this hand symbol could be written - One of them is to write Stefan's version with an angle out for the little finger...years ago we made the little finger at an angle to the square for the fist, so that readers would hopefully not confuse the little finger with the index finger…please excuse my lousy artwork - I just did this quickly…of course the little finger line should be a little shorter at an angle:</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><img height="264" width="368" apple-width="yes" apple-height="yes" id="94273b30-b3d1-47e5-ac53-8e5e8e5fdbb8" src="http://listserv.valenciacollege.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A3=ind1111&L=SW-L&P=7549502&E=base64&B=--Apple-Mail%3D_C6AB11AE-FBA5-4C1D-B03E-CC0F06FEF6A5&T=image%2Fpng;%20charset="></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>And the other way of writing this is to have the two fingers bend relating
into each other…always bending towards each other as if they are talking to each other…</div><div><br></div><div>I am happy no matter what you choose - all that matters is that we can read the symbols…If there is a bend in both fingers and there is a square for the fist, that is enough to read the symbol…</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Val ;-)</div><div><br></div><div>--------------</div><div><br></div><div> </div><div><br></div><div><br><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div>On Nov 24, 2011, at 2:53 PM, Stefan Wöhrmann wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div lang="DE" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="Section1" style="page: Section1; "><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; "><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 10pt; ">I would write this handshape this way
–<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; "><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 10pt; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; "><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 10pt; ">Stefan<o:p></o:p></span></font></div></div></div><img name="Barretto 1.jpg" id="d5829971-681c-4022-9b41-6f5637ca3b83" height="134" width="388" apple-width="yes" apple-height="yes" src="http://listserv.valenciacollege.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A3=ind1111&L=SW-L&P=7553312&E=base64&B=--Apple-Mail%3D_C6AB11AE-FBA5-4C1D-B03E-CC0F06FEF6A5&T=image%2Fjpeg;%20charset="><img name="Barreto1.JPG" id="7dea2ecc-c3bf-43de-897d-81ba0704d9b3" height="416" width="338" apple-width="yes" apple-height="yes"
src="http://listserv.valenciacollege.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A3=ind1111&L=SW-L&P=7561531&E=base64&B=--Apple-Mail%3D_C6AB11AE-FBA5-4C1D-B03E-CC0F06FEF6A5&T=image%2Fjpeg;%20charset="></blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>-----------------</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div>On Nov 24, 2011, at 2:25 PM, Madson Barreto wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div><div style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; "><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="2"><div><div class="MsoNormal"><div class="MsoNormal"><div class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Hello Valerie and everyone,<o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Thank you for answers and comments on my posts.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Charles and Valerie, we already know the lessons of
SignWriting translated by Marianne Stumpf, she was my teacher at the College of <i>Letras Libras</i>.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">By the way, this semester our Group for the Study of SignWriting is not coming together because several components were doing the compulsory training of faculty, including me. But my wife, myself and a friend deaf always talked about the SignWriting.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">I am forwarding the email on the handshapes of Libras to make it easier to analyze eachone.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">- The picture "1" is the union of 01-01-007 (ISWA code) and 01-06-019.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div
class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><span lang="EN-US" style="line-height: 19px; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; ">Valerie, Charles and Stefan, thank your comments. Valerie, you said there is another way of writing this handshape. What is it?</span><br></div></div></div><div><br></div></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="2"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><br></font><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><font><b>Madson Barreto </b></font></font></font></div></div></div><img name="1 in SW.jpg" id="0b81aa08-321c-43bd-b0e0-918e9924a993" height="42" width="121" apple-width="yes" apple-height="yes" src="http://listserv.valenciacollege.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A3=ind1111&L=SW-L&P=7580808&E=base64&B=--Apple-Mail%3D_C6AB11AE-FBA5-4C1D-B03E-CC0F06FEF6A5&T=image%2Fjpeg;%20charset="><img name="1.JPG" id="5d82f64f-792d-43b3-a6cd-a7731e98547d" height="416" width="338" apple-width="yes"
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