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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Well Bill, <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>it is not only that .. There
is another problem as well ... symbols of the right hand show up as symbols
for the left hand.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Stefan<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:windowtext;font-weight:bold'>Von:</span></font></b><font
size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;
color:windowtext'> SignWriting List: Read and Write Sign Languages
[mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Im
Auftrag von </span></b>Bill Reese<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Gesendet:</span></b> Dienstag, 27. Dezember
2011 07:34<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>An:</span></b>
SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Betreff:</span></b> Re: AW: our graphics
quality is excellent</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>You're right, in a way Stefan. I didn't edit out
the symbols enough to remove extra black portions. I think those may be
the white areas of symbols that get converted to black somehow.
They can be deleted easy enough in Inkscape but the person editing needs to
know enough to do so. <br>
<br>
Apparently, the extraction of the SVG from the PDF didn't handle the white
areas correctly.<br>
<br>
Bill<br>
<br>
<br>
On 12/26/2011 6:04 PM, Stefan Wöhrmann wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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</xml><![endif]-->Hi Bill, <u5:p></u5:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><u5:p> </u5:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I could open the
attachment. <u5:p></u5:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>This is so funny – well
there is a dramatic change within the symbols. Obviously this method does not
work. ;-( <u5:p></u5:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><u5:p> </u5:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Stefan <u5:p></u5:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><u5:p> </u5:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:windowtext;font-weight:bold'>Von:</span></font></b><font
size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;color:windowtext'> SignWriting List: Read and Write Sign
Languages [<a href="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU">mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU</a>]
</span></font><b><font size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:windowtext;font-weight:bold'>Im Auftrag von </span></font></b><font
size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;
color:windowtext'>Bill Reese<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Gesendet:</span></b> Montag, 26. Dezember
2011 20:39<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>An:</span></b> <a
href="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU">SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU</a><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Betreff:</span></b> Re: our graphics quality
is excellent</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<u5:p></u5:p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'><u5:p> </u5:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Although ... still can't seem to post svg in the body
of an email ...<br>
<br>
Let's see if an attachment works ...<br>
<br>
Bill<br>
<br>
<br>
On 12/26/2011 1:32 PM, Bill Reese wrote: <u5:p></u5:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Some people don't have Photoshop so I looked for a
another way to work with Stepan's PDF files.<br>
<br>
I opened his PDF file of the column in GSview, which runs Ghostscript. I
then chose Edit->convert to vector format->magick driver. This
driver uses GraphicsMagick or ImageMagick to do conversions. I have
GraphicsMagick installed on the Windows XP system I was doing this on.
When naming the output file, I gave it an ".svg" extension, which
tells the driver what format I want to convert to. After conversion, I
opened the file in Inkscape and deleted a couple of black boxes obscuring the
images and also a black curve in the arrow of the the fourth sign.
Then, like Stefan, I did a little different layout, grouping into signs first,
then moving the signs around.<br>
<br>
<br>
<img border=0 width=32 height=32 id="_x0000_i1028"
src="cid:part1.04020904.03060607@tampabay.rr.com" moz-do-not-send=true><br>
<br>
Bill<br>
<br>
<br>
On 12/25/2011 1:01 PM, Stefan Wöhrmann wrote: <u5:p></u5:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Hi Ingvild, Valerie, Jonathan, Steve
and friends, ... <u1:p></u1:p></span></font><u5:p></u5:p><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><u1:p> </u1:p></span></font><u5:p></u5:p><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>First of all ... <u1:p></u1:p></span></font><u5:p></u5:p><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:12.0pt'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><img
border=0 width=556 height=203 id="_x0000_i1027"
src="cid:image001.jpg@01CCC474.6839F160"></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<u5:p></u5:p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:12.0pt'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><u1:p> </u1:p></span></font><u5:p></u5:p><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:12.0pt'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Second: <u1:p></u1:p></span></font><u5:p></u5:p><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:12.0pt'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I spent
some time to understand the postings about Ingvild’s problem with the
quality of the graphics for publishing. <u1:p></u1:p></span></font><u5:p></u5:p><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:12.0pt'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Finally
I found a neat work around and I hope it works... <u1:p></u1:p></span></font><u5:p></u5:p><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:12.0pt'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><u1:p> </u1:p></span></font><u5:p></u5:p><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:12.0pt'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Once you
have finished the graphics with SignPuddle Column-Maker (SVG
Refinement) right click on the given column and look for “Print
actual frame”<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><u5:p></u5:p><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:12.0pt'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I
installed a program called PDF24 - and voila I get a perfect PDF of
this column as you can see in the attached Merry Christmas file ;-) <u1:p></u1:p></span></font><u5:p></u5:p><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:12.0pt'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>If you
want to, you can open the PDF in Photoshop in order to continue your work. In
this case a wrote the same text from left to right.. <u1:p></u1:p></span></font><u5:p></u5:p><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:12.0pt'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><u1:p> </u1:p></span></font><u5:p></u5:p><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:12.0pt'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I feel
so happy that this procedure is working. Wow – Adam – and Steve and
Valerie your cooperation allowed us to print materials with excellent graphics
quality. Congratulations!! <u1:p></u1:p></span></font><u5:p></u5:p><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:12.0pt'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I do not
know yet what the publisher for literature would say – but to me it looks
good. <u1:p></u1:p></span></font><u5:p></u5:p><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:12.0pt'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Hope all
of you are doing fine! <u1:p></u1:p></span></font><u5:p></u5:p><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:12.0pt'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Stefan <u1:p></u1:p></span></font><u5:p></u5:p><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:12.0pt'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><u1:p> </u1:p></span></font><u5:p></u5:p><o:p></o:p></p>
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face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><u1:p> </u1:p></span></font><u5:p></u5:p><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:12.0pt'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><u1:p> </u1:p></span></font><u5:p></u5:p><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:12.0pt'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><u1:p> </u1:p></span></font><u5:p></u5:p><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:12.0pt'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><u1:p> </u1:p></span></font><u5:p></u5:p><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><u1:p> </u1:p></span></font><u5:p></u5:p><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt'>SignWriting List<u1:p></u1:p></span><u5:p></u5:p><o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt'>December 20, 2011<u1:p></u1:p></span><u5:p></u5:p><o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt'><u1:p> </u1:p></span><u5:p></u5:p><o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt'>I am glad to know this too, Ingvild - To
finally have publishers and printers stating that our graphics quality is
excellent is a big step forward, because before SVG, we had bitmaps with
staircased-circles, so this is great news they could use svg for publishing
printed materials -<u1:p></u1:p></span><u5:p></u5:p><o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt'><u1:p> </u1:p></span><u5:p></u5:p><o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt'>Not everyone knows how to use .svg - it is
great on the web, but to use it inside book-layout-software is another story -
I hope to learn how to do this myself later - <u1:p></u1:p></span><u5:p></u5:p><o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt'><u1:p> </u1:p></span><u5:p></u5:p><o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt'>what would really help, Steve, is to be
able to print to PDF from ColumnMaker once the svg format is refreshed and
ready to go - svg to pdf is needed - <u1:p></u1:p></span><u5:p></u5:p><o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt'><u1:p> </u1:p></span><u5:p></u5:p><o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Val ;-)<u1:p></u1:p><u5:p></u5:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'><u1:p> </u1:p><u5:p></u5:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'><u1:p> </u1:p><u5:p></u5:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><u1:p> </u1:p></span></font><u5:p></u5:p><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'><u5:p> </u5:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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