<html><head><base href="x-msg://311/"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><div>SignWriting List</div><div>March 5, 2012</div><div><br></div><div>Hi Madson and everyone -</div><div>You must forgive my poor reading of Portuguese - I really enjoy seeing SignWriting posted on FaceBook (see posting below) and I only wish I could participate better, but my poor Portuguese is a problem - I thought I would share with you, how I would write the sign for DAWN, which you mention below - which I believe is your word MADRUGADA?… Follow the dots - this writing shows that the little finger opens first…if the thumb opened first then the dots would start at the thumb - you can place the dots exactly with the fingers that open - so if you only opened two fingers, then the exact two fingers could be marked with the dots symbols - that is why they are accurate, because you can shorten or lengthen the dot by dot symbols to show exactly which fingers open first, second and third...</div><div><br></div><div><img height="165" width="127" apple-width="yes" apple-height="yes" id="1b8153d5-3d6e-4f43-b29f-8a15dc22f005" src="cid:35A285D6-A25D-46DC-BEC2-461DE9A8FC70"></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>On Mar 2, 2012, at 3:37 AM, Madson Barreto wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr" style="margin-top: 0px; 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border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: solid; ">Madson Barreto<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://www.facebook.com/n/?groups%2F338509196173109%2F368239529866742%2F&mid=5baae0cG2d867987Gaeae622G96&bcode=h9A4DgRd&n_m=sutton%40signwriting.org" style="color: rgb(59, 89, 152); text-decoration: underline; ">posted in Signwriting - Brasil</a>.</div><div style="margin-bottom: 15px; "><table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" style="width: 518px; padding-top: 7px; "><tbody><tr><td valign="top" style="padding-top: 3px; padding-right: 5px; padding-bottom: 5px; padding-left: 0px; width: 57px; "><a href="http://www.facebook.com/n/?profile.php&id=100000752617342&mid=5baae0cG2d867987Gaeae622G96&bcode=h9A4DgRd&n_m=sutton%40signwriting.org" style="color: rgb(59, 89, 152); text-decoration: none; "><img src="http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/hprofile-ak-snc4/368711_100000752617342_924264820_q.jpg" alt="(POSTAGEM 3) O símbolo que mostrei na..." style="border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; 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padding-bottom: 7px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 11px; ">(POSTAGEM 3)<br><br>O símbolo que mostrei na 'Postagem 1" de acordo com a regra indica que o movimento de abrir começa no dedo INDICADOR e depois os outros tbm abrem.<br>Mas na Libras alguns sinais começam a abrir pelo dedo MÍNIMO (ex: Explicar; Madrugada).<br>Para escrever o movimento começando do dedo mínimo, poderia se usar a seguinte convenção (regra): escrever o símbolo (o da Postagem 1) PERTO DO DEDO MÍNIMO, isto mostraria que o movimento começa por ele.<br><br>Veja os exemplos na imagem:<br>A) usando o símbolo (postagem 1)<br>B) usando a trilha...<br><br>A<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://www.facebook.com/SignWriting" style="color: rgb(59, 89, 152); text-decoration: none; ">Valerie Sutton</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>disse no fórum que as duas formas estão corretas e que é possível entende-las. Acredito que a forma indicada em 'A' é mais fácil de ser escrita e pode ser usada em vários sinais. Mas a forma 'B' parece apresentar limitações quanto a escrita do sinal 'Madrugada'...<br><br>Vocês concordam em escrevermos como no exemplo 'A'?<br><br>abraços,<br>Madson e<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://www.facebook.com/quelbarreto" style="color: rgb(59, 89, 152); text-decoration: none; ">Raquel Barreto</a></div><div style="padding-top: 10px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 10px; padding-left: 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 11px; "><table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="border-collapse: collapse; "><tbody><tr><td valign="top" style="padding-right: 10px; "><a href="http://www.facebook.com/n/?photo.php&fbid=335509079817510&set=o.338509196173109&type=1&mid=5&n_m=sutton%40signwriting.org" class="thumb" style="border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-right-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-bottom-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; color: rgb(59, 89, 152); text-decoration: none; display: block; line-height: 0; padding-top: 3px; padding-right: 3px; padding-bottom: 3px; padding-left: 3px; "><img class="img" src="http://photos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/425051_335509079817510_100000752617342_875517_2100017120_s.jpg" width="90" alt="" style="width: 90px; "></a></td><td valign="top"></td></tr></tbody></table></div></td></tr></tbody></table></div></td></tr></tbody></table><span><img src="http://www.facebook.com/email_open_log_pic.php?mid=5baae0cG2d867987Gaeae622G96" style="border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; width: 1px; height: 1px; "><bgsound src="http://www.facebook.com/email_open_log_pic.php?mid=5baae0cG2d867987Gaeae622G96&s=a" volume="-10000"></bgsound></span><br></td></tr><tr><td colspan="2" style="color: rgb(102, 102, 102); padding-top: 10px; padding-right: 5px; padding-bottom: 15px; padding-left: 10px; border-top-color: rgb(233, 233, 233); border-top-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; line-height: 18px; font-size: 12px; font-family: 'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif; "><a href="http://www.facebook.com/n/?groups%2F338509196173109%2F368239529866742%2F&mid=5baae0cG2d867987Gaeae622G96&bcode=h9A4DgRd&n_m=sutton%40signwriting.org" style="color: rgb(59, 89, 152); text-decoration: none; ">View Post on Facebook</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>·<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://www.facebook.com/n/?groups%2F338509196173109%2F&view=notifications&mid=5baae0cG2d867987Gaeae622G96&bcode=h9A4DgRd&n_m=sutton%40signwriting.org" style="color: rgb(59, 89, 152); text-decoration: none; ">Edit Email Settings</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>· Reply to this email to add a comment.<br></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></div></blockquote></div><br></body></html>