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<div style="RIGHT: auto"><SPAN style="RIGHT: auto">Please look up "compar maos" on the Brazilian Sign Puddle and see if I got it right. <VAR id=yui-ie-cursor></VAR></SPAN></div>
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<DIV><FONT face="'Times New Roman'">Valerie, thank you for being so helpful and clarify our doubts. Thank you also for your gracious words about us.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face="'Times New Roman'">Sorry for the delay in responding. These days we have been solving many things and time was short.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face="'Times New Roman'">We now understand how to work the Surface Symbols in general, except when they use the symbols for "between". We can not think of any example in Sign Language observing the explanations of Stuart Thiessen.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face="'Times New Roman'">The remaining patients are now clear. The four ways of writing that you posted are excellent and cleared our minds even more.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face="'Times New Roman'">We talked and analyze each signal.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="'Times New Roman'">- The way 1 is was incorrect;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="'Times New Roman'">- For everyday writing four would use the way, in other circumstances or formality, the way we would use 2 or 3. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face="'Times New Roman'">We prefer the way 3 because the symbols are distributed more clearly, allowing for faster reading.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face="'Times New Roman'">In the way 2, the surface symbol along with star symbol touch and realize that the process of reading is a bit slower.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face="'Times New Roman'">Again, thanks to everyone who contributed to our understanding.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face="'Times New Roman'">Regards,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face="'Times New Roman'">Madson and Raquel Barreto</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; FONT-SIZE: medium">1. The Surface Symbol tells us that one hand is in front of the other, but because it is placed near the Flat Hand, could it be that the Flat Hand is supposed to be in front of the Fist? It is a well written sign, but that is the one question I have with it - The placement of the Surface Symbol near the Flat Hand confused me at first…</DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; FONT-SIZE: medium">2. In this one, the Contact Star is placed at the end of the arrow, showing that there is contact at the end of the movement. It also tells us that the contact at the end is "in front of" the hand it is contacting.</DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; FONT-SIZE: medium">3. This one states the same, but the "in front of" is placed underneath the Fist…</DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; FONT-SIZE: medium">4. And the last one is the way I would write it, if it is not incorrect. It depends on what you are doing - if it is for everyday use, then seeing it from the side, and also eliminating all Surface Symbols and Contact symbols is the way we write here. The Contact is assumed since the two hand symbols are written so close to each other. Our goal is usually simplicity for daily writing.</DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; FONT-SIZE: medium">Thank you again for the great photos below…</DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; FONT-SIZE: medium">So how do you feel about the placement of these symbols and which ones above do you prefer?</DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; FONT-SIZE: medium">Val ;-)</DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV><BR><BR></DIV></DIV></div></body></html>