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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Hi Rafaela, Valerie, Adam, ... <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Well in order to „understand“
what the reader is supposed to do, it is better to minimize the guessing game.
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>- smile - <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>As I understood Rafaela –
she asked for a way to write a sign that shows a mouth as if saying (without
voice) “brumm” or “papa”<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>This is what we call “Mundbilder”
within SignWriting – This kind of speechwriting is already pretty good
defined and it can be adopted to various “spoken languages” if you
focus on the symbols that are already defined... <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>In this case it is no
problem to write four head circles and the additional “Mundbilder” <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>In the end you show up
with a written sign that is exact and easy to understand, to perform, to read
... <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Of course there are other
signs in sign languages that ask for mouth-movements and facial expressions
that are not associated with spoken language but with mimic. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Stefan <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>Von:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> SignWriting
List: Read and Write Sign Languages [mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>Im Auftrag von </span></b>Rafaela Silva<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Gesendet:</span></b> Montag, 18. Juni 2012
04:25<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>An:</span></b>
SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Betreff:</span></b> Re: AW: Mouth symbols</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma'>thanks for respondig.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma'>By your answer I gather that you use 4 differents faces do
represent one lip movement, that's right? What I want is just one so I can aply
to a sign.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma'>Rafaela<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma'>> Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2012 10:07:18 +0200<br>
> From: stefanwoehrmann@GOOGLEMAIL.COM<br>
> Subject: AW: Mouth symbols<br>
> To: SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU<br>
> <br>
> Hi Rafaela, <br>
> <br>
> you probably know that in Germany we use a lot of "Mundbilder" <br>
> <br>
> I defined a set of symbols to represent these lip and tongue movements
that<br>
> go along with what you can see if a person is speaking (even without
sound) <br>
> <br>
> I just wrote your two signs<br>
> <br>
> 1) it is a short "Brumm" a long "U" could be
interpreted differently but in<br>
> general I do not distinguish between long and short vorcals if it is not
for<br>
> the purpose of articulation.<br>
> <br>
> 2) Papa - is easy to understand. <br>
> <br>
> Have a great day <br>
> <br>
> Stefan<br>
> <br>
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----<br>
> Von: SignWriting List: Read and Write Sign Languages<br>
> [mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU] Im Auftrag von Rafaela Silva<br>
> Gesendet: Freitag, 15. Juni 2012 23:41<br>
> An: SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU<br>
> Betreff: Mouth symbols<br>
> <br>
> Hello everyone. Hope everthing is well.<br>
> <br>
> I have 2 doubts/questions and I hope someone can help me!<br>
> <br>
> 1 - SW have a facial symbol for the expression "bruumm" that we
do with the <br>
> mouth, for example, when we want to imitate or explain the sound of a <br>
> motorcycle?<br>
> <br>
> 2 - SW have a symbol that represents the mouth opening and closing <br>
> consecutively? (As babies do whe they are starting to talk, like<br>
> "papapapapa")<br>
> <br>
> Thank you.<br>
> <br>
> Rafaela<br>
> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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