<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">SignWriting List<div>June 18, 2012</div><div><br></div><div>Hello Rafaela!</div><div>I am happy for the question here on the SignWriting List…It is always good to see how these movements can be written differently, depending on your perspective.</div><div><br></div><div>It would help, if you could take a short video of the two mouth movements and post the video to the SignWriting List as an attached file. We can post video to the SignWriting List.</div><div><br></div><div>Or place it on YouTube and then give us the link to look at…</div><div><br></div><div>The English language is not good enough to describe what you wish.</div><div><br></div><div>Stefan's answer is excellent for writing the way the mouth looks when speaking. Did you know about Stefan Woehrmann's SpeechWriting? Stefan developed a way to write the mouth moving while speaking German, Portuguese and other spoken languages, using the SignWriting symbols and some additional extended symbols, and establishing a standardized way of writing each sound or mouth movement. HIs Deaf students in Germany learn to speak from reading strings of mouth movement symbols, which they call Mundbildschrift in Germany. Adam was telling me that he can read the movements of speech from it, and we are all very impressed. You can see it in use when you visit the SignPuddle for Germany:</div><div><br></div><div>SignPuddle for Germany</div><div><a href="http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/index.php?ui=8&sgn=53">http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/index.php?ui=8&sgn=53</a></div><div><br></div><div>For example, if you look up "pah" in the above dictionary, you will find the way Woehrmann's SpeechWriting writes that sound…</div><div><br></div><div><img height="117" width="95" apple-width="yes" apple-height="yes" id="aeca7902-efc5-46a0-a9e6-1695170ffa0b" src="cid:36314EF3-3F87-4F64-B29C-941795BB25DA"></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Meanwhile, when writing PAH in ASL Deaf storytelling, having nothing to do with spoken language, that would be different. Adam wrote the ASL PAH with the air blowing out of the mouth, with the lips pressing together three times:</div><div><br></div><div><img height="35" width="48" apple-width="yes" apple-height="yes" id="2ba87288-d536-468a-93c5-7b9364db7268" src="cid:6137AFCE-6AD3-477E-8AFE-8DFF101727CC"></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Blowing air out of cheeks does not require writing full cheeks, because sometimes it is done without the cheeks filled with air, when it is a small quick blowing movement.</div><div><br></div><div>That is why it would be great if we could see what you mean on video - then we will know what you need to write ;-)</div><div><br></div><div>Thank you again for posting your question to the SignWriting List…it means a lot for all of us...</div><div><br></div><div>Val ;-)</div><div><br></div><div>----------</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On Jun 15, 2012, at 2:40 PM, Rafaela Silva wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div>Hello everyone. Hope everthing is well.<br><br>I have 2 doubts/questions and I hope someone can help me!<br><br>1 - SW have a facial symbol for the expression "bruumm" that we do with the <br>mouth, for example, when we want to imitate or explain the sound of a <br>motorcycle?<br><br>2 - SW have a symbol that represents the mouth opening and closing <br>consecutively? (As babies do whe they are starting to talk, like "papapapapa")<br><br>Thank you.<br><br>Rafaela<br><br></div></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>