<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">SignWriting List<div>August 9, 2012</div><div><br></div><div>Thank you for this message, Charles. Of course we all agree with you from a user's point of view.</div><div><br></div><div>From a programming perspective, the fact that SignWriting was used to program the Avatar to move like that, is a good thing…</div><div><br></div><div>... In the past people told us that HamNoSys was better at programming Avatars to move, but Professor Jemni's project, I believe uses a form of SWML that they may have tweaked a bit, but nonetheless, if SignWriting played a role in the programming of the Avatar then that is a valuable thing too…</div><div><br></div><div>I agree that the user interface could be using the written script for sign languages, SignWriting, to the benefit of the users as well - but those are two different roles to play -</div><div><br></div><div>Val ;-)</div><div><br></div><div>-----</div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On Aug 7, 2012, at 4:58 AM, Charles Butler wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:garamond, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div><span>I tried to comment on the TED forum but it wouldn't take my password. So, I'll reply here. I strongly feel you should use SignWriting in your search database. We were working with avatars years ago in Brazil, and the only difficulty I have is that they will not teach actual reading and writing to a Deaf audience. SignWriting will. With an avatar one still has a spoken word or written word database going to a signed language, not a writing system within the actual signed language. This does not build literacy, it builds dependence on essentially an "artificial" videotape. One can build a one-to-one vocabulary list or phrase-to-phrase, but the ongoing narrative of teaching a non-hearing population to be literate in their own language is here getting them to create a videotape assignment, never teaching actual writing and
grammar in comparison to other writing and grammar. </span></div><div> </div><div>Charles Butler<br><a href="mailto:chazzer3332000@yahoo.com">chazzer3332000@yahoo.com</a><br>240-764-5748<br>Clear writing moves business forward.<br></div> <div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: garamond, 'new york', times, serif; "> <div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; "> <div dir="ltr"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> <hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Mohamed JEMNI <<a href="mailto:mohamed.jemni@FST.RNU.TN">mohamed.jemni@FST.RNU.TN</a>><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> <a href="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU">SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU</a> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, August 7, 2012 4:50 AM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> My TED 2012 presentation<br> </font> </div> <br>
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friends and colleagues: <br><br><a href="http://talentsearch.ted.com/video/Mohamed-Jemni-An-avatar-capable;TEDTunis">http://talentsearch.ted.com/video/Mohamed-Jemni-An-avatar-capable;TEDTunis</a></span></div></div><div style="margin-bottom:3.0pt;"><div class="yiv2125769954MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="color: black; font-family: sans-serif; "><br>Thank you, <br>Mohamed JEMNI </span></div></div></div><div><div class="yiv2125769954MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span lang="EN-US" style="color: black; font-family: sans-serif; ">-- <br>Prof. Mohamed JEMNI<br>Head of Research Laboratory LaTICE<br></span><span class="yiv2125769954MsoHyperlink"><span style="font-family: sans-serif; "><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.latice.rnu.tn/"><span lang="EN-US">www.latice.rnu.tn</span></a></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="color: black; font-family: sans-serif; "><br>General Director of Computing Center Al Khawarizmi<br></span><span class="yiv2125769954MsoHyperlink"><span style="font-family: sans-serif; "><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.cck.rnu.tn/"><span lang="EN-US">www.cck.rnu.tn</span></a></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="color: black; font-family: sans-serif; "><br>Personal page: </span><span class="yiv2125769954MsoHyperlink"><span style="font-family: sans-serif; "><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.utic.rnu.tn/english/memb_jemni.htm"><span lang="EN-US">http://www.utic.rnu.tn/english/memb_jemni.htm</span></a></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="color: black; font-family: sans-serif; "><br>e-mail: </span><span class="yiv2125769954MsoHyperlink"><span style="font-family: sans-serif; "><a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:mohamed.jemni@fst.rnu.tn" target="_blank" href="mailto:mohamed.jemni@fst.rnu.tn"><span lang="EN-US">mohamed.jemni@fst.rnu.tn</span></a></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="color: black; font-family: sans-serif; "><br>Tel: +216 71 602 840 Fax: +216 71 601
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